[Mitch44]

The fact is that when the original pace manual was written circa 1986 very few were achieving 63% winners and with his revised guidelines many more achieved that goal and level. He obviously revised the guidelines because it proved to be more effective and produced more 63% winners which was his goal. Additionally the same can be said for his later and much improved factors.

The keystone of Sartin is contenders and proper pace lines, anyone not following his later teachings is doubtful at best of achieving that goal of 63% from his earlier endeavor into this game. They were few then and now because proven concepts are ignored.


The independent study by Bill Lister proves that your guidelines only produced the winner in the top 4 64 % which makes it impossible by my 3rd grade math to achieve a goal of 63% unless they pick 100% winners. I also believe 318 races using your guidelines to be sufficient of a test for accurate results. BTW the 63 % was a Sartin standard not mine and I learned of it around 1990. I did not learn that from you or anything else for that matter. The "Doc" never guaranteed anyone 63% winners, he was too smart for that knowing some have a secret desire to lose and some would refuse to follow guidelines. No much too smart for that.

You are free to use and do whatever procedures that you deem appropriate. But members should be aware there are more efficient tools for getting the winner in the top 4 at a much higher % which places them on the path for greater success and also better tools for getting the correct pace line. That path is through Sartin's later guidelines and better tools that presently exists within RRDSS. Once given that information they also are free to choose their own path to travel.


As I said this game is about foresight and not hindsight or Monday morning quarter backing. Theories count for nothing. While Bradshaw never believed in post mortems others did and I also believe their good for finding problems and correcting issues but the fact is anybody can get a winner after the fact. The results of 318 races speaks for itself. There are tools within RDSS that will get the winner within 4 horses 80% and higher and those contender selection factors along with later guidelines and tools for pace line selection will place a member in the game to achieve 63%.Of course money management and experience count but their at or near the finish line with energy in reserve.
Mitch44


Going forward good skill.
Mitch44