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I bet mostly exactas so I am probably not the best person on win/place/show... most of what I know is based on what I have read. If I remember right, Dick Schmidt who edited the early follow ups, was a fan of Ziemba's place and show betting methods. I don't know hardly anything about Ziemba, but if Howard let Dick put his name in the Follow Up, he must not be too far out there.
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