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Bill Lyster · 11-05-2026, 02:57 PM

There might be another way to get a leg up on this info.

Record the TM speed rating and the Adj SR from the same race to see either a straight % drop or just a plain number differential. I would also keep info on the race distances because ASRs for races at 10f and up on the turf have a tendency to score very low.

Have you ever tried to match a possible contender from a race that was run from 8f to 9f on the turf to horses coming from 10.5t to 12 or more on turf? There is a significant gap most likely because the pace of these longer races is usually V. slow.

Also, if anyone out there knows of an existing study on the subject, please post info here. It would be much appreciated.

Thanx

11-05-2026, 02:57 PM	#9
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,509	TM vs Adj SR relationships There might be another way to get a leg up on this info. Record the TM speed rating and the Adj SR from the same race to see either a straight % drop or just a plain number differential. I would also keep info on the race distances because ASRs for races at 10f and up on the turf have a tendency to score very low. Have you ever tried to match a possible contender from a race that was run from 8f to 9f on the turf to horses coming from 10.5t to 12 or more on turf? There is a significant gap most likely because the pace of these longer races is usually V. slow. Also, if anyone out there knows of an existing study on the subject, please post info here. It would be much appreciated. Thanx