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Old 09-12-2008, 05:53 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by xtb View Post
It baffles me how some people feel they "have the right" to enter someone's establishment and behave however they want. It makes me wonder how these same people act as a guest in someone else's home. Do they really believe that their "rights" supercede a host's right to create and operate a website how the host wishes? There is nothing preventing these same people from creating their own websites to exercise their "freedom of speech", except themselves.

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Originally Posted by Ted Craven View Post
So if a post is discourteous or uncivil (e.g. 'you're an asshole/idiot/thief') it will be editted or deleted. If someone actually is an asshole, or a know-it-all, or a bully, or a rabble-rouser in their private life, or community or social circle - that is not the issue or responsability of anyone here to change that, only to prevent that behaviour from disrupting THIS community.

Absolutely amazing. Good explanation.

No matter how you explain it, " if I don't get my way, some crime has been committed."

The bible is approximately 6,000 years or 60 centuries of warners, prophets, messengers, apostles, preachers, etc., all to no avail, look at the world today.

And I am not excluding myself as the problem.

So what are you gonna say in in 1 minute that could'nt get thru in 1,000's of years?

People want to believe what they want, and want what they want, whether they are right or wrong, it doesn't matter.

People can die over and over again thru their mistakes, you can dig them up over and over and give them another chance of life, and what will they do...???

Probably be a more properly skilled at invoking their hearts desire, whether it's right or wrong, whether it steps on someone else's rights or not, they want what they want, period.

And not even God or an Act of God will EVER change their opinion.

Folks, all you gotta do is look at THE FOLLOW UP....that's what Bill has been tryin to model this post after.

So if you did'nt like THE FOLLOW UP or seminars, you probably don't like this forum.

Did'nt remember reading Doc going back and forth to several clients or participants in a piss match.

Don't remember the Pirco Charter Teaching members , in example, THE HAT saying anyone believing in jockeys or trainers like Tom Brohamer is a stupid so and so, they had some measure of class, though their methods differ.

Doc wrote about anything PROVABLE over multiple 20 race cycles that will ENHANCE or increase the power of the Sartin Methodology.

Which means either/and more consistant wins than previously, more money, higher mutuals.

Freedom of Speech on the flip side also has Freedom of Consequences.

Freedom of Speech is not 100% perfectly literal.

You can say "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre.......You can say to the President of the United States to his face that he should be killed....you can also have a loud phone conversation in theatre at a premiere......but what would happen?

Would the Freedom of Speech arguement exhonerate you in court? Are you willing to put your dollars on that?

.....if you call the Judge in court a dirty name multiple times, he can give you a contempt of court and land you a fine and jail time.....A COURT, an American court, where FREEDOM OF SPEECH was established ,enforced and protected...,

So can I come to your house , work or establishment an exercise MY freedoms, irregardless of the rules and code of conduct?

Hell, Freedom..., I can get about 50 people in a golf course, pay their way, then dribble basketballs all on the course, or lie on the course all over and have a picnic while people are actively playing, so how far is too far?

How bout me interrupting your conversation and verbally challenging you everytime you talk to someone else, though I be a complete stranger, I have the freedom of speech.

So how far is too far ?

Basically, " if I don't get my way, you suck, period."

Proper place and proper time for things.

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