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MIKE1121 · 10-25-2008, 03:42 AM

Jim Crammer assigned running position of the horse with his rank of first call time.. example EP1 would be a Early, Presser horse who has the fastest first fraction of all the horses in the race... etc.. etc...

I assign position by where a horse likes to be positioned and then alter this by the effect other horses will have on the horse. I am predicting his position in relation to the field. I realize that SPEED of a fractional time has an effect on his positioning of past races, but by eye balling position in its entirety some of the time element will be taken into account naturally.Sub conciously my mind will make these adjustments, my mind MAY be seeing times.

What I am trying to do is see the layout of the field as if I was seeing it from above the field, just using a little different approach, thats all.The benefit for me is higher prices.After my Positioning I do use either an Early or Late rating, just crude as Dick Smidht would say good enough numbers every race this is done. Its just that Early/ late numbers only take me about 5 minutes per race, positioning takes me sometimes 40 minutes a race to do.

This was just an example of using an open mind to get a new insight.

Here is another one. A lot of people have bashed Mike Pizzolla with his release of black magic program. Even though I have no attention of buying his program I did gain much benefit in viewing his free video. He gave me a NEW IDEA.. I never would have thought on myown about creating a program that can print out a sheet for me telling me what races at a given track have race shape situations that I like to see, currently I have to open up each race one at a time, which is time consumming, but thanks to Mike P. I now can see that this can be programmed. So thank you Mike P.

Whatever it is before you dismiss it, maybe you may be able to alter something you read and come up with something new and you alone will have it.

Mike.

10-25-2008, 03:42 AM	#9
MIKE1121 Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 131	Jim Crammer assigned running position of the horse with his rank of first call time.. example EP1 would be a Early, Presser horse who has the fastest first fraction of all the horses in the race... etc.. etc... I assign position by where a horse likes to be positioned and then alter this by the effect other horses will have on the horse. I am predicting his position in relation to the field. I realize that SPEED of a fractional time has an effect on his positioning of past races, but by eye balling position in its entirety some of the time element will be taken into account naturally.Sub conciously my mind will make these adjustments, my mind MAY be seeing times. What I am trying to do is see the layout of the field as if I was seeing it from above the field, just using a little different approach, thats all.The benefit for me is higher prices.After my Positioning I do use either an Early or Late rating, just crude as Dick Smidht would say good enough numbers every race this is done. Its just that Early/ late numbers only take me about 5 minutes per race, positioning takes me sometimes 40 minutes a race to do. This was just an example of using an open mind to get a new insight. Here is another one. A lot of people have bashed Mike Pizzolla with his release of black magic program. Even though I have no attention of buying his program I did gain much benefit in viewing his free video. He gave me a NEW IDEA.. I never would have thought on myown about creating a program that can print out a sheet for me telling me what races at a given track have race shape situations that I like to see, currently I have to open up each race one at a time, which is time consumming, but thanks to Mike P. I now can see that this can be programmed. So thank you Mike P. Whatever it is before you dismiss it, maybe you may be able to alter something you read and come up with something new and you alone will have it. Mike.