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We will have to agree to disagree...I've seen far too many examples of horse failing in G1 or G1 against slower paces than they have beaten in G3 to thinking that class is not important, and far to many horses drop from MSW to Mcl and soundly beat paces they have never been close to before.
Culin was on the downside of his form cycle and on a surface that strongly favored turf horses, not his best surface. His limitations were in form and surface, not class.
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