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shoeless · 05-10-2009, 12:33 PM

Mr Charlie,You asked if a 74 and change would make this horse a contender[i think you meant 47 and change].How do you know that will be the pace of todays race?Every race is different and unless your an expert of projecting pace[which i doubt very seriously]you dont know.Why do you think only a handful of people can do it?I never met Hat but did talk to a couple of people who knew him and it seems he would extract times from different pacelines to come up with a projected pace.Until you can do that you really dont know what it is.As far as Im concerned there are only 2 people here on board that can come close to doing the match up and that would be Richie and Emilio.

It's funny how quite a few people say how Pizzolla's fulcrum methods are out of whack,but do they really know what the fulcrum is supposed to accomplish.It is a contender guide but your supposed to set a conservative time for it,it's not just so you are able to get rid of a bunch of horses.Your also supposed to leave in horses if they are 2\5th of a tick off.In my opinion this would be a much better way to project a pace of the race.

05-10-2009, 12:33 PM	#1
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,614	How do you know? Mr Charlie,You asked if a 74 and change would make this horse a contender[i think you meant 47 and change].How do you know that will be the pace of todays race?Every race is different and unless your an expert of projecting pace[which i doubt very seriously]you dont know.Why do you think only a handful of people can do it?I never met Hat but did talk to a couple of people who knew him and it seems he would extract times from different pacelines to come up with a projected pace.Until you can do that you really dont know what it is.As far as Im concerned there are only 2 people here on board that can come close to doing the match up and that would be Richie and Emilio. It's funny how quite a few people say how Pizzolla's fulcrum methods are out of whack,but do they really know what the fulcrum is supposed to accomplish.It is a contender guide but your supposed to set a conservative time for it,it's not just so you are able to get rid of a bunch of horses.Your also supposed to leave in horses if they are 2\5th of a tick off.In my opinion this would be a much better way to project a pace of the race.