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Originally Posted by Charlie D
FTL
We are not cooking omlete's, we are talking about cappin races and as stated everything you make to do this comes from the Past Performances. Spedfigures derived from final time, FPS, Pace figures derived from Fractions, trainer, jockey stats stats derived from horses performances and so on. Everything contained in a horse racing db comes from PP's. The new product you mention sounds like it will be derived from PP's too.
I know from reading your posts you know this, so why i am having to tell you it is so, i'm not sure
tbh.
If we are going to take the game serious, lets stick to what is relevant eh!! and not bring cooking into it or any other unrelated subject.
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Charlie, we got a little far afield and I was just trying to make a point. Sure everything flows from the PP's and at this point in time, he who deciphers them best, does the best. But you have to keep an open mind for new ways like the people who brought us the tools we use today. Tools that were unheard of when I started in this game 45 years ago. We have to remain open to new ideas.
You put forward the use of FPS, Pace Figs and Energy Distribution. As I said, they have been beat to death. Everybody tries to develop their own "figs", but in the end 22.0-45.0-1:10 are still the numbers regardless of what form one tries to express them in. So like I said, trying to re-invent the wheel is useless. It's already been re-invented 100 times. (or maybe more)
So where does race handicapping go from its' current position? Does it remain stagnant or will someone come along with a fresh idea? Obviously any "fresh" idea would not include FPS, Pace Figs, Energy Distribution, Jockeys, Trainers, Angles and all that stuff that you mentioned otherwise it wouldn't be fresh.
"gl45" for an example, seems to be working in that direction and my hat is off to him for his efforts.
Keep up the good work, Charlie, and keep your mind open for news ideas as you move forward, while not losing site of those things that work for you now.