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Mark · 06-25-2013, 10:19 PM

Bill,

Orb reminded me of Fusaichi Pegasus. I was using AODDS98 at the time and he was one of the very few Non-S horses to win the Derby. I did not like Orb’s Florida campaign and were it not for some highly unusual circumstances in the Derby Orb would be a small footnote in history. As it is I think he will be hard pressed to take any honors in the Fall Classics unless he can start running some final fractions. However, we will have to see who comes on the scene between now and then and how he recovers from his efforts in the Triple Crown races.
I have a great deal of respect for Doc Sartin and Jim Bradshaw. Since I found Pace and Cap and The Hat Check Blog, I have finally pieced together what I haven’t understood for the last 20 years about the Match Up. And that is now the basis of my play: Assign Running styles, project the pace of the race and find out who can run to it. But I don’t slavishly follow Sartin Doctrine nor every one of Doc’s admonishments. The end result is what matters. I want to feel the pace and what horses will be involved in it. In my view if you don’t know what is going on, how do you have confidence in putting any substantial money into it.
I also use other software and downloads that have more in depth trainer information and Pedigree stats. This is the age of information and it is all available to us via the Internet.
I cashed my first ticket at Del Mar in 1965. It was a $180 Daily Double when those were the first two races of the day. My Grandmother placed the bet for me. So I may be a Maiden in Pace and Cap’s eyes, but I have been at this game for nearly 40 years.

06-25-2013, 10:19 PM	#8
Mark Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 318	Bill, Orb reminded me of Fusaichi Pegasus. I was using AODDS98 at the time and he was one of the very few Non-S horses to win the Derby. I did not like Orb’s Florida campaign and were it not for some highly unusual circumstances in the Derby Orb would be a small footnote in history. As it is I think he will be hard pressed to take any honors in the Fall Classics unless he can start running some final fractions. However, we will have to see who comes on the scene between now and then and how he recovers from his efforts in the Triple Crown races. I have a great deal of respect for Doc Sartin and Jim Bradshaw. Since I found Pace and Cap and The Hat Check Blog, I have finally pieced together what I haven’t understood for the last 20 years about the Match Up. And that is now the basis of my play: Assign Running styles, project the pace of the race and find out who can run to it. But I don’t slavishly follow Sartin Doctrine nor every one of Doc’s admonishments. The end result is what matters. I want to feel the pace and what horses will be involved in it. In my view if you don’t know what is going on, how do you have confidence in putting any substantial money into it. I also use other software and downloads that have more in depth trainer information and Pedigree stats. This is the age of information and it is all available to us via the Internet. I cashed my first ticket at Del Mar in 1965. It was a $180 Daily Double when those were the first two races of the day. My Grandmother placed the bet for me. So I may be a Maiden in Pace and Cap’s eyes, but I have been at this game for nearly 40 years.