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Bill V. · 09-23-2013, 09:32 AM

Hello Jim

My comments will be in bold type and there is a short video about VDC after my comments

You wrote
I would like to help you with your questions about the VDC readout

For now, your thoughts on the relationship VDC with other factors would be greatly appreciated.

My take from reading the Follow Ups is that VDC grew from Entropy and was part of the Validator program. It falls on the verge of being a black box number and was presented as a validation of the other readouts so that some of the decision making was reduced when analysing some of the other readouts. And in the Follow Ups one would "go with" VDC instead.

Yes your right on the money

Then there is the Best VDC, Last 3 pace line selection strategy to boot.

This is something that Ted added to RDSS but it is not a pace line selection method used in the Sartin Methodology VDC was not intended to be a line selection tool. I am not saying its wrong to use this but remember Doc did not
set up VDC for pace line selection.

I realize that picking pacelines is a personal thing. I can see how running that strategy can be useful as a learning aide to someone first learning to pick pacelines (I find myself at times changing lines due to the selected line not being what I consider as "comparable", but, that is due to experience and what the computer cannot decipher as only we humans have the ability to make "judgements").

That is why I feel the various pace line selection methods offered on RDSS
are "'Helpful" but I still feel pace line selection should be adjusted to the match up and the class of the race.

But, once I have my lines, I am not sure where VDC takes me when it comes to further contender selection and analysis of the race.
I use VDC, but, in a rudimentary way (more in the fashion of a vailidator) and thus my further study and the questions arising from that study.

Your thoughts and guidance are appreciated.

Jim
To me if your picking your pace lines in a consistent manner and making judgments rather than using the auto selection options, then going to BLBL
or other rating screens, and then your using V/DC as a validating readout
you are right on and using the readout to its intended purpose.

Here is a short video about the beginnings of the VDC readout
I also give a quick review of how the VDC readout was intended to be used.

Here is a helpful screen capture from the video

My VDC video

vdc jim.mp4

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09-23-2013, 09:32 AM	#5
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Vdc Hello Jim My comments will be in bold type and there is a short video about VDC after my comments You wrote I would like to help you with your questions about the VDC readout For now, your thoughts on the relationship VDC with other factors would be greatly appreciated. My take from reading the Follow Ups is that VDC grew from Entropy and was part of the Validator program. It falls on the verge of being a black box number and was presented as a validation of the other readouts so that some of the decision making was reduced when analysing some of the other readouts. And in the Follow Ups one would "go with" VDC instead. Yes your right on the money Then there is the Best VDC, Last 3 pace line selection strategy to boot. This is something that Ted added to RDSS but it is not a pace line selection method used in the Sartin Methodology VDC was not intended to be a line selection tool. I am not saying its wrong to use this but remember Doc did not set up VDC for pace line selection. I realize that picking pacelines is a personal thing. I can see how running that strategy can be useful as a learning aide to someone first learning to pick pacelines (I find myself at times changing lines due to the selected line not being what I consider as "comparable", but, that is due to experience and what the computer cannot decipher as only we humans have the ability to make "judgements"). That is why I feel the various pace line selection methods offered on RDSS are "'Helpful" but I still feel pace line selection should be adjusted to the match up and the class of the race. But, once I have my lines, I am not sure where VDC takes me when it comes to further contender selection and analysis of the race. I use VDC, but, in a rudimentary way (more in the fashion of a vailidator) and thus my further study and the questions arising from that study. Your thoughts and guidance are appreciated. Jim To me if your picking your pace lines in a consistent manner and making judgments rather than using the auto selection options, then going to BLBL or other rating screens, and then your using V/DC as a validating readout you are right on and using the readout to its intended purpose. Here is a short video about the beginnings of the VDC readout I also give a quick review of how the VDC readout was intended to be used. Here is a helpful screen capture from the video My VDC video vdc jim.mp4 screen shot Last edited by Bill V.; 09-23-2013 at 09:43 AM.