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Ok but all I know I've been following what Doc told me over 20 yrs ago and it works very well for me. Just to be clear I wasn't inferring that turn time should be used as a stand alone. This is what I like to call situational handicapping and is not used to predict the winner but rather to see if a mdn going against winners should be downgraded no matter its tier rating. As usual nothing works 100% of the time but I'll make this move every time. I would suggest that those interested if it works do what Mitch and I do all the time do a 100 race survey. If it works consider keeping it if it doesn't chuck it.
Tim
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