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07-11-2020, 02:12 PM | #11 | |
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Like he said, in fewer words! (He's a writer, and Hemingway to my Proust). Ted
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07-11-2020, 03:16 PM | #12 |
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Ted, I enjoyed it anyway.
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07-11-2020, 03:30 PM | #13 |
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Nobody could write like Proust, which is a good thing. I remember reading one of his sentences that ran for almost two pages. I've never seen so many semicolons. Growing up in the South though, I had to read Faulkner until it was coming out my ears. He was almost as verbose as Proust. (No, I take that back. Proust is in a league by himself.)
Faulkner and Hemingway, fellow Nobel laureates and polar opposites in writing style, did not like one another and the insults flew back and forth. When asked what he thought of Faulkner's work, Hemingway was reported to have replied, "Well, it's good. But so much of it is unnecessary." And none of that had a darn thing to do with horse racing. My apologies. |
07-11-2020, 03:35 PM | #14 |
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Thanks again all for the welcome and advice. I'm a high school science teacher. So with my science background I'm always interested in the "why". All of the historical information is great and has helped a lot. I read through all the "From the Tops" yesterday. Skimming through the yellow manual now. I haven't downloaded the software yet. I need to have a conceptual understanding first before I take that plunge. Ted I'll be sure to search for the post you recommended.
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07-11-2020, 04:17 PM | #15 |
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MJS6916;
Glad you enjoyed the post. I tried to go through the evolution of Sartin stuff for background while letting the new and old know what was still relevant while giving an explanation of the same. Yes even those around for years still don't get it or some of this stuff. Sartin's style of writing can also be a challenge however it does come into focus after years of experience and practical application. Some never get it. My post was to remove some of the obstacles to get you out of the gate much faster and on to the wire to be a winner. Some very good nuggets in there for those that listen, some just have too much stubborn resistance to change to be successful. Wishing you best of health and success. BTW Sartin had a teacher of these methods from NY that was a Chaplain who built a church from his winnings. His name was Bert Mayne. Best of luck, Mitch44 |
07-11-2020, 04:50 PM | #16 |
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Bert still uses RDSS. Retired from preaching a few years ago. Joined us in Saratoga a few years back with his daughter Jenny, gave a talk at one of our seminars and hosted Mum and me at his farm for a nice dinner and chat.
Lovely and complex gentleman. Ted
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07-11-2020, 06:06 PM | #17 |
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So happy to here Bert is still around Ted. He was a complex man for sure, into meditation and things somewhat before they came in vogue. At least much of it was way before I ever heard of it.
He wrote some stuff for Sartin who was attracted to great minds. Bert had an air about him of confidence and calm, where as Bradshaw at times was all over the page. Now that could be a Ying and Yang show, simple and complex. I'll never forget when Bert Mayne was guiding us through a race and someone asked about a horse in the race to which Bert said;" Now why would you ask about that horse, he couldn't run around a dog dish let alone a racetrack." Ha ha ha His favorite and local track was Finger Lakes. Tim (Lt1) rode the train back to NY with him. Mitch44 Last edited by Mitch44; 07-11-2020 at 06:08 PM. |
07-11-2020, 06:06 PM | #18 | |
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I found this (October, 2018) from rmath: http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11919 10-25-2018, 03:04 PM #1 rmath Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,306 Contenders I have recently completed a 1000 race study on getting the win contenders in the race. 1. )Playable races are non Maiden, no Turf , 3yr. olds and up with a minimum of 3 North American running lines for each horse, AND at least 8 betting interest in each race. 2. ) Only races run at 5.5f, 6f, 1mile. mile and 70 yds. , and 8.5 f were used since these are the most common distances run at the tracks I play. 963 winners were ranked in the top 5 on one of these 3 ratings: CSR- Profit Line or Prime Power. 919 wins had at least two of the 3 ratings. Rmath I thought these were the numbers Ted was reffering to. Hope this helps, Mike |
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07-11-2020, 06:27 PM | #19 |
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I remember being in Docs' room at the 95 Meadowlands seminar asking him questions. Any way at 1 point he looked at me and stated "you know you don't have to be a mechanic to drive the car". In other words you don't need to know how everything in the program works to be a winner. All you have to do is follow his guidelines and keep records and you will be well on your way to success.
Tim
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07-11-2020, 06:45 PM | #20 | |
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In fact, for those who attended last year's Saratoga Friday night seminar, Dick spent an hour or so reviewing these ideas and handicapping a couple of Alabama Stakes day races. Followed by a talk by Richard D (rdiam) on betting best-practices. Then Charlie B (Gandalf380) leading us in analyzing with RDSS a couple of the Stakes races. All with pizza! I invite Dick to elaborate or clarify his ideas here or in a new Thread. Ted
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