Bad night at Woodbine - Pace and Cap

barb craven · 06-18-2009, 08:23 AM

Two horses and jockeys went down in Woodbine's 3rd last night. At last report both jockeys were in the hospital, but moving their limbs. I don't know about the horses. I haven't heard any more since. Do you know anything more Tim?

RichieP · 06-18-2009, 10:27 AM

Barb
Both jocks will be ok it appears which is great news

mikesal57 · 06-18-2009, 11:38 AM

good news!! but its always horrible to watch...and for the horses..well only the connections will know...for animal lovers its always never published

tfm · 06-18-2009, 12:27 PM

As luck would have it, I bet Oliver's Strike in that race. Hard to comprehend what Beckon had in mind with his ride. The horse didn't break particularly well and was never a threat for the lead early. Rather than letting him settle, Beckon guns him 6 wide on the 1st turn and continues widest, without cover, on the backstretch. This was in a 1st quarter run in 22 and change. I've never quite understood this type of ride. A horse probably loses 99.9999999% of the time with trips like this as it is covering a significantly more distance of ground. By the time they got to the 2nd turn, Oliver's Strike just flat out fell --- from the pressure I would imagine. I blame this incident on Beckon and his ride. I don't know what happened to the horses but I would imagine one or all were put down. And Beckon and Husbands were hospitalized. (Which cost me a win later in the card on a horse that Husbands would've won on.)

When Beckon recovers, perhaps he'd like to try an experiment. Get on his biek and head over to the local park and ride with the other cyclists there. While they're drafting and trying to save ground, I want Beckon to ride wide of them, without cover, and experience what it feels like to be doing all that extra work. Maybe then he (and other jocks who continually ride the same way) will get a sense of how abusive their rides are to horses.

RichieP · 06-18-2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfm

As luck would have it, I bet Oliver's Strike in that race. Hard to comprehend what Beckon had in mind with his ride.

John
Barb and myself also were on "Oliver" last night as we worked the races. I kept wondering where the heck he was when Barb told me he had appeared to go down.

tfm · 06-18-2009, 12:51 PM

Rich

You can see it clearly with the headon view at Calracing.com. He's the one chasing, widest.

When they hit the 2nd turn, the horse just goes down.

RichieP · 06-18-2009, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfm

Rich

You can see it clearly with the headon view at Calracing.com. He's the one chasing, widest.

When they hit the 2nd turn, the horse just goes down.

Thanks John I am gonna look now. I forgot about Calracing for the replays out of state and headon shots.

barb craven · 06-18-2009, 01:15 PM

Thanks for the info guys. I'd still like to know for sure what happened to the horses.

barb craven · 06-18-2009, 07:02 PM

CBC 6:00 news just reported that they had to euthanize #13 Oliver's Strike.

06-18-2009, 10:27 AM	#2
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	Barb Both jocks will be ok it appears which is great news Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!" Last edited by RichieP; 06-18-2009 at 10:29 AM.

06-18-2009, 11:38 AM	#3
mikesal57 Grade 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 3,952	good news!! but its always horrible to watch...and for the horses..well only the connections will know...for animal lovers its always never published __________________ Never bet a favorite doing something for the first time-Harvey Pack

06-18-2009, 12:27 PM	#4
tfm Former member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,136	As luck would have it, I bet Oliver's Strike in that race. Hard to comprehend what Beckon had in mind with his ride. The horse didn't break particularly well and was never a threat for the lead early. Rather than letting him settle, Beckon guns him 6 wide on the 1st turn and continues widest, without cover, on the backstretch. This was in a 1st quarter run in 22 and change. I've never quite understood this type of ride. A horse probably loses 99.9999999% of the time with trips like this as it is covering a significantly more distance of ground. By the time they got to the 2nd turn, Oliver's Strike just flat out fell --- from the pressure I would imagine. I blame this incident on Beckon and his ride. I don't know what happened to the horses but I would imagine one or all were put down. And Beckon and Husbands were hospitalized. (Which cost me a win later in the card on a horse that Husbands would've won on.) When Beckon recovers, perhaps he'd like to try an experiment. Get on his biek and head over to the local park and ride with the other cyclists there. While they're drafting and trying to save ground, I want Beckon to ride wide of them, without cover, and experience what it feels like to be doing all that extra work. Maybe then he (and other jocks who continually ride the same way) will get a sense of how abusive their rides are to horses. Last edited by tfm; 06-18-2009 at 12:29 PM.

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06-18-2009, 08:23 AM	#1
barb craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bobcaygeon,On,Canada Posts: 1,308	Bad night at Woodbine Two horses and jockeys went down in Woodbine's 3rd last night. At last report both jockeys were in the hospital, but moving their limbs. I don't know about the horses. I haven't heard any more since. Do you know anything more Tim?

06-18-2009, 12:51 PM	#6
tfm Former member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,136	Rich You can see it clearly with the headon view at Calracing.com. He's the one chasing, widest. When they hit the 2nd turn, the horse just goes down.

06-18-2009, 01:15 PM	#8
barb craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bobcaygeon,On,Canada Posts: 1,308	Thanks for the info guys. I'd still like to know for sure what happened to the horses.

06-18-2009, 07:02 PM	#9
barb craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bobcaygeon,On,Canada Posts: 1,308	CBC 6:00 news just reported that they had to euthanize #13 Oliver's Strike.