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Old 02-20-2006, 07:07 AM   #1
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Using a Sprint Line in a Route

Im finding that most of the time when I do this the sprinter will project at or near the top of the readouts.Yesterday in the 8th at Philly which I was too stupid to play I used a 7 fur race for the 2 horse.Hopefully Binder can put it up because Im not adept at doing that.On the readout the 2 ranked 1st and the 5 second who won the race at 15-1.My thinking is now to leave these sprinters out of the distance races.Anyone else have any observations about this.Shoeless
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Old 02-21-2006, 05:43 AM   #2
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Hi Shoeless

Yes I will rework the race for you
I also missed the 5 horse Really ? I wonder why I messed
up. Usually for me if I use a 7 .o line in a route and its the last line they do well.
At 15/1 too ??? strange
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Old 02-21-2006, 06:08 AM   #3
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Bill,The sprinter going the route went off 6 to 5 and is still running.The 15 to 1 horse had run at a distance before.Sorry for the mixup but THANKS FOR THE REPLY.Jeff
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Im finding that most of the time when I do this the sprinter will project at or near the top of the readouts.Yesterday in the 8th at Philly which I was too stupid to play I used a 7 fur race for the 2 horse.Hopefully Binder can put it up because Im not adept at doing that.On the readout the 2 ranked 1st and the 5 second who won the race at 15-1.My thinking is now to leave these sprinters out of the distance races.Anyone else have any observations about this.
all the more reason NOT to use a single line. If the sprinter does not project at close to the style for routers at that track, they should never be used. Was this the race? probably not
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Old 02-21-2006, 01:30 PM   #5
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with the earlier programs, the formula for projection was not all that good. Later programs, ALONG WITH A TRACK THAT SHOWS THAT PROJECTIONS WORK, did a good job as this one today at Philly proved.
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Old 02-21-2006, 04:45 PM   #6
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No it was the 8th at Philly on Sunday.I believe he didnt have any distance races at Philly,he did have one at Meadowlands.I was scared to use it because I read quite a few negatives about using Med lines.Shoeless
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Unless the race is AT the Meadowlands, NEVER, I repeat, NEVER use lines from that track: they are FAR TOO FAST along with Canterbury, Lone Star, and Emerald Downs.
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Old 02-21-2006, 06:03 PM   #8
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Here is my failed attempt at race 8 from Philly on Sunday 0219

I will show you step by step what I did

Here are the conditions
The 4 9 and 10 were scratched
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Old 02-21-2006, 06:06 PM   #9
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Race 8 Philly 0219

Horse 1 going off odds 1.80- 1
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Race 8 Philly 0219

Horse 2 Going off odds *1.20 - 1
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