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Old 05-03-2018, 09:50 PM   #31
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Thanks, LS.
Do you remember Doc's guidelines for the Preakness and Belmont too?
I thing it was use the same pacelines as you did for the Derby, but go to the EARLY horses?

Can't remember what for the Belmont - maybe Pressers?

Thanks for the reminder!

Tom,

Thanks for your interests...I am not the person to answer this question; maybe when Bill V. has some extra energy- he can answer your question with more clarity regarding Doc Sartin's suggestion.

Regarding the Preakness Stakes, I can post several examples where one might focus on: There is a previous article regarding using part of the Kentucky Derby pace line. The entire Derby pace line is not a good line to draw conclusions.

Link: http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9203
The fractions up to the "Mile" marker are useful to evaluate the pace line.

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Hope this can help in future Preakness stakes when evaluating the Kentucky Derby pace line.

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Old 05-03-2018, 09:52 PM   #32
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:37 AM   #33
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Grade II Winner - Vino

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Do you think Vino can do this?
His Wood victory is very strong.

Happy Punting

Jon

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Old 05-05-2018, 09:18 PM   #34
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Baffert wins 5th Kentucky Derby

Justify justified his hype!!!!

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Old 05-06-2018, 07:40 AM   #35
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Talking Derby Recap

When the track went from "my" to "sly" I was so wrapped up in the moment - playing GP & BEL that i forgot to change the winner's running line to his mud race 2 back. using that line he was #1 in HE-AP-EP-SP which is the hallmark of a Top horse. I did use him to win and in the exacta in the Future Pool 3 while everyone was focused on McKenzie and Bolt d'Oro. Caught both the $14.40 win and the $245.80 ex. I forgot that I even made the bet, until I checked my balance! Hey, that was 2 months ago. I can't remember everything and I usually don't. Now we await the litigants for the next leg at Pim.
I'm back playing GP and TAM today like yesterday was just a distant memory.
Good Luck. Omar.

P.S. I did catch the #3 to place in Race 10 at CD. Paid $27.80 but i'm still fighting mental illness by not backwheeling my longshots in the exacta, only used him under 2 horses. So I don't catch a $1753.60. Oh well. Every morning I wake up trying to figure out why i'm still POOR.

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Old 05-06-2018, 04:20 PM   #36
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Smile One other point

Back in 2013 i saw two very fast front runners not lift a hoof in a very sloppy derby: Verrazano and Golden Cents. Orb loved the track that day and then bowed out gracefully. I still think this track helped the winner and hampered the closers coupled with a slower 2nd half of race. I'm definitely going to check Thoro-Graph numbers for this race to see how the horse's form changed. For me it's a cheat sheet. I pay $5 a race, i just buy selected races. Also bris's ultimate pp's race summary for $3 to see how the track is playing and the Master Magician because i handicap very fast with it and Bris's single data file($1) for my PacePlus program which gives me my TPR #'s. Later, Omar.
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