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03-16-2018, 08:54 AM | #1 |
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Sprint or Route? - @7.5f Turf races
I'm using Ted's Template 4 to build models for DS, DR, TS and TR. At Fair Grounds and Gulfstream, they run turf races at "about" 7 1/2 furlongs. I'm not sure whether to categorize them as sprint or route. For the present, I'm putting them under "Turf Route" because those races are run around two turns. Besides, when the rails are up, who knows how far those races are.
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03-16-2018, 09:24 AM | #2 |
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I would consider them to be a route. Their kind of a bastard distance. Many of these are just a few feet short of a mile at GP because of the starting gate and run up distance while others are 7.5 F. Check the results charts which give the run up distance as they may ne very consistent at FG.
These extreme and varied run ups wreck havoc on 1st FR times and in the 3rd FR the deceleration factor as to who wins. I would recommend avoiding them all together. There is always another race in 20 minutes or so and even less with simulcasting. And if your not going to play them than why waste time recording the data.. Mitch44 |
03-16-2018, 11:12 AM | #3 | |
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03-16-2018, 11:51 AM | #4 |
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Jeebs:
For the reasons as stated in my post, races 10 & 13 tomorrow I would favor the horses in the top 3 DCL # on the Velocity-POH screen. I wish you success tomorrow Tim. Mitch44 |
03-16-2018, 04:47 PM | #5 |
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My 2 cents - I would model them separately, same with the 6.5 downhill at SA. Both seem to be rather unique.
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03-17-2018, 02:03 PM | #6 |
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but are not the times and splits - fc-20's sc-40's final- like a sprint?? does one consider the stretch call 3/4?
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03-17-2018, 02:59 PM | #7 |
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7.5f, 8.2f, 8.3f
I stay away from all of them, don't even open these races anymore (whacked out SR, run ups etc) 6.5f SA turf - only look at if ALL the runners contenders have lines from that dist/surface to evaluate Why bother?
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