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Old 04-22-2008, 12:19 PM   #11
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Thanks much Rich - very clearly shown. I still have to take a look at the match up this year, but Doc's mantra for the Derby and CD at the distance was Sustained and that's what the Engen shows for the winners - S for most winners in their last race (Street Sense actually showed Late).

Looks like Med E% of 66.9 to 67.9 is a good parameter, though Street Sense was way off that range but I'm wondering if that was the first year of KEE poly? That Med E% range may have to be lowered substantially for all the poly preps out there and we now have to strongly consider LATE Engen styles if off a poly line.
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:34 PM   #12
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Take the AVERAGE of the last three medians and make sure they are NOT going UP.
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:22 PM   #13
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richiep, great work! and after viewing, i was thinking what dinner this spring.
i'm sure you are preparing some tomatos, basil, maybe some "spring" vege with penne, and of course garlic, for penne primavera. so after you uncork the pino'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A3zetSuYRg

ps those women, like feathers
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:05 PM   #14
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I can see clearly now

Thanks Rich

Its true look at the esp for the winners

I'm looking at the win and place horse from the major preps
who run with Other than early

Sus S/P and Late

wow Rich Your post brings each derby memories to life
Thank you for your work up
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:18 PM   #15
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I'm looking at the win and place horse from the major preps
who run with Other than early
You have to look deeper than that. Many Derby winners ran third in their last prep.
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Old 04-22-2008, 06:35 PM   #16
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Hi Tim
You are correct ITs best to use anthing close up in the
major preps

Actually I have never really been into the derby
as for as making bets

I think I have only made real bets with

Morachoes
Steet sense
Giacomo
- small $2wps bet as I was leaving the track
( what the heck )

And oh yeah some horse from Philly
SMARTY JONES !!!! I still have my uncashed Ticket !!!!!

But anyway I do what Doc suggest
Take the win / place or close up finishers horses from the major preps
and that run
SUS S/P and Late
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Derby Winner 2008.
Times they are a changing
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Old 05-04-2008, 10:00 AM   #18
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Yes Rich

Look at that the center line buck

0.0 E/L Pres Esp
ok well back to the lakes and philly
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