B/r t.t. #2 (10/25 wo r#7) - Page 2 - Pace and Cap

ray lopez · 10-25-2014, 12:25 PM

Tough race and will probably pass on this.I'll just give an opinion.
My contenders are 3-4-5-13 and probable pace of 49.4 and 112.3.
#13 and #3 to win.

Ray

The Pook · 10-25-2014, 01:08 PM

My Winning Group:
4/13/12/5

Todays Projected Pace:
49.6/113.6

Early Scenario:
I believe this race will run early because of the preponderence of late and slow horses. RDSS points me to 12 and 5 as having the best energy distribution of the horses that are contenders to achieve this.

Tandems:
Many tandem relationships helped weed out slower horses to the above four horses.

Conclusion:
Bet 12 and 5 at sufficient odds. If not, bet 4 and then 13 if they qualify.

Pook

chuckg · 10-25-2014, 01:53 PM

The presence of a sprinter going route makes it very difficult for the early route horses.

6 Twilig showed a 48.8 workout over poly. Should go faster in a real race.

12 and 13 out of the faster tandem can press that pace.

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Matching the OTE group 2nd call to stretch against similar times shows the 3 and 12 with power moves.

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So, 3 to Win. Two horse win bet with W/P on 12 since the price should be higher.

mowens33 · 10-25-2014, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mowens33

Looking for a price?

#7 and #11 are scratched, I will use the 12

mowens33 · 10-25-2014, 04:43 PM

Pook, nice job!!

PeteC · 10-25-2014, 11:43 PM

Pook tabs another one! Others had the winner in their final contender mix too. I'll have some feedback soon, but for now, here is the chart...

The Pook · 10-26-2014, 09:03 AM

Thanks Mike....the 5 ran from farther off the pace than I expected but in his PP's his 2 wins were from well off and moderately off. He seems to run both ways and I chose his last race as the paceline which I think was the right one. I think he found himself in a situation where he didn't expend his energy to be on pace and was able to use it all later.

Maybe Pete could speak to this but I find sometimes that you expect the race and or your selections to run a certain way but they don't and still you have a positive result.
Thanks Pete for your feedback.

Pook

The Pook · 10-26-2014, 09:58 AM

Further to my point above and in kind of answering myself, I find matching up forces one to get into a race and really dig around unearthing contenders with good chances, no matter how the race actually runs. Would you concur Pete?

Pook

mowens33 · 10-26-2014, 10:02 AM

Pook, your thought process was right on.

Underestimated the closing ability of the Ryder Kay, my thought was that he would be closer to a fast pace and this would hurt his finish. Looks like the last race took too much out of Seawatch (6 year old), and she was closer to the pace than I anticipated.

My pace of race was pretty good (48-112/2: race 48/3-112/4). Good mind exercise (tough race).

Thanks Pete

vderdak · 10-26-2014, 11:29 AM

Does anyone know where VOODOOFAN went or what happened to him, I'm curious, I loved his posts in the MatchUp?

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ray lopez Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 846	Tough race and will probably pass on this.I'll just give an opinion. My contenders are 3-4-5-13 and probable pace of 49.4 and 112.3. #13 and #3 to win. Ray

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chuckg Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 168	WO 7 Oct 25 The presence of a sprinter going route makes it very difficult for the early route horses. 6 Twilig showed a 48.8 workout over poly. Should go faster in a real race. 12 and 13 out of the faster tandem can press that pace. Matching the OTE group 2nd call to stretch against similar times shows the 3 and 12 with power moves. So, 3 to Win. Two horse win bet with W/P on 12 since the price should be higher.

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mowens33 Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: CAMBRIDGE,MA Posts: 1,035	Pook, nice job!!

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The Pook Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Loretto, Ontario Canada Posts: 2,539	Thanks Mike....the 5 ran from farther off the pace than I expected but in his PP's his 2 wins were from well off and moderately off. He seems to run both ways and I chose his last race as the paceline which I think was the right one. I think he found himself in a situation where he didn't expend his energy to be on pace and was able to use it all later. Maybe Pete could speak to this but I find sometimes that you expect the race and or your selections to run a certain way but they don't and still you have a positive result. Thanks Pete for your feedback. Pook

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The Pook Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Loretto, Ontario Canada Posts: 2,539	Further to my point above and in kind of answering myself, I find matching up forces one to get into a race and really dig around unearthing contenders with good chances, no matter how the race actually runs. Would you concur Pete? Pook

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mowens33 Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: CAMBRIDGE,MA Posts: 1,035	Pook, your thought process was right on. Underestimated the closing ability of the Ryder Kay, my thought was that he would be closer to a fast pace and this would hurt his finish. Looks like the last race took too much out of Seawatch (6 year old), and she was closer to the pace than I anticipated. My pace of race was pretty good (48-112/2: race 48/3-112/4). Good mind exercise (tough race). Thanks Pete

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vderdak Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 130	Does anyone know where VOODOOFAN went or what happened to him, I'm curious, I loved his posts in the MatchUp?