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11-21-2017, 01:42 AM | #1 |
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One WIN or Multiple WINS
I posted this about 4 and a half years ago.
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11-21-2017, 04:18 PM | #2 |
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Hi FTL
Thanks for the refresher lesson. I had kind of put those stats away However it is another nugget to aid in eliminations Bill |
11-23-2017, 12:50 AM | #3 | |
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There are SO MANY good threads in this forum that people never see because they don’t go back and read them. Basically, you and I “kicked off” this forum with the idea of teaching. There were many, many races reviewed with all the PP’s, line selection and reasons for for the lines chosen, as well as comments on each horse entered. All in much detail. It wasn’t a forum for praising RDSS or any other software, although RDSS and all its’ various screens were used so people could better associate with how the information was presented. Many times the screen shots and PP’s were “marked up” to help in the teaching process. Conditions were covered, and not just what the various condition abbreviations meant, but how to use them to evaluate horses in the handicapping process when considering class rises or drops. There is more to handicapping than looking at numbers. For my part, teaching “horse racing” (not just handicapping) was as important as any thing else. “ON TOPIC” questions were answered in detail. It has been 4 to 5 years since we started this forum and I would still encourage anyone who is interested in learning to go to the last page of the forum and work their way forward. Thread starters may have been you, me or whomever. They should just read them all. One never knows when something of interest to them may be discussed.
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11-23-2017, 10:13 AM | #4 |
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You have the 4 fundamentals of horse racing (Pace, Speed, Class, and Forum), and if you do not have an understanding of all 4 than your fooling yourself if you plain to win at this game.
RDSS2 is a Great Tool and you need to use this information in parallel with the above. Bill, FLT, Pace and Cap couldn't ask for any better mentor's than yourself, and I for one love your post. Thanks also to all the teaching members, Tim (LT), Ted, RichieP, Pook, Mitch44, rmath, partsnut, Mick and many more....... A special Thanks to Dr. Sartin who made this all possible!!!! Regards, Mike |
11-23-2017, 01:18 PM | #5 |
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FTL and Bill I have learned a lot from both of you and really appreciate
the time you have spent trying to teach others. Thanks |
11-23-2017, 03:31 PM | #6 |
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Highweight Handicap
Here is one of FTL's lessons in action
This is today's 104th Fall High Weight Handicap The dude wins it right on top at 134 pounds |
11-23-2017, 03:45 PM | #7 |
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This one
This is coming up at CD race 10
The high weights are 1 and 4 |
11-23-2017, 04:51 PM | #8 |
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Handicap races
Here is the link to the original thread on this topic.
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9176
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11-23-2017, 05:12 PM | #9 |
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Bill V's post
By the way, in keeping with Bill V’s post on CD, race 11 there was also a HANDICAP race.
The highweight won paying $#10.40 For those not familiar with this concept, I stress reading the original thread on the subject. The link appears in the post above.
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11-24-2017, 09:57 AM | #10 |
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FTL,
I recall a post you made about multiple winners in allowance races, but could not find it. I know it had to do with NW?X races where wins below the level of the race pointed to winners in many cases. Can you find or re-create that lesson? Thanks, |
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