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Old 08-02-2017, 03:00 PM   #1
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FL - R1 Stewards

In the first at FL today there was a stewards. 1A won, 5 finished 2nd and 1 was 3rd.

Entering the stretch the 1 interfered with the 5. Stewards followed and the 5 was promoted to 1st even though the 1A didn't cause any problems. I'm prepared to admit that the 5 would probably have won, but even so it was a little rough. I'd managed to get on the 1A at 10/1 on betfair where you can back entries separately.

Just so I know for in future, in the above instance, if the 1A was miles clear and easily won, would it still have been demoted due to the actions of the other part of the entry?
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:49 PM   #2
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Hi Dave. I believe if I remember correctly the stewards can dq both half of the entry based on the situation. I believe that it is rarely done.
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Old 08-02-2017, 06:15 PM   #3
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In the first at FL today there was a stewards. 1A won, 5 finished 2nd and 1 was 3rd.

Entering the stretch the 1 interfered with the 5. Stewards followed and the 5 was promoted to 1st even though the 1A didn't cause any problems. I'm prepared to admit that the 5 would probably have won, but even so it was a little rough. I'd managed to get on the 1A at 10/1 on betfair where you can back entries separately.

Just so I know for in future, in the above instance, if the 1A was miles clear and easily won, would it still have been demoted due to the actions of the other part of the entry?
I did a quick Google search.
Hope this helps.
http://www.albanylaw.edu/media/user/...ed_entries.pdf
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Old 08-02-2017, 06:54 PM   #4
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Thanks both

Tim,
To be honest I'd never seen anything like this before & thought I was going to be ok, but there you go. I've calmed down now!

FTL, brilliant document. Enjoyed reading that. It's funny how each state has slightly different rulings. That said, even if the rulings were the same, it would still be open to the interpretation of the stewards. You just hope for consistency.

All said and done, in this case although I was a little upset at the manner of my overturned win, that would have been nothing compared to how I'd have felt if I had backed the 5. It was clearly impeded by the other part of the entry and that impediment helped the 1A to win. Fair enough.

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Thanks to FTL for providing that very interesting article. A real good read underscoring why racing needs a centralized ruling body like all other sports. It won't happened but it sure is needed.
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That reminds me of the time that Julie Krone was riding one half of an entry at Saratoga. The other part of the entry bothered her horse so she claimed foul against the other part of the entry. If she had won the protest she would have been disqualified also.
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Old 08-06-2017, 09:54 AM   #7
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The FL stewards fouled up in yesterday's 7th. Horse clearly in the hands of the starter while in the gate, dumps the rider and stewards declare that the horse made its own trouble. No refunds. If I'm the owner, I would be filing an appeal with the state gaming commission to have the horse declared as a non-starter and the race removed from its record. Does bettors no good, but it's the right thing for the connections.
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Hi Jeebs,

I think I'd give the stalls handler the benefit of the doubt there. Hard to see what happened preceding the trouble, but at least he kept hold of it. I noticed the jockey was running away faster than some of those horses were moving!
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