Rebel Stakes - Pace and Cap

patecatl · 03-14-2013, 01:37 PM

Just curious if anyone has worked up the Rebel Stakes this Sat at Oaklawn. I dont have the PP at the moment but I like SuperNinetyNine.

PeteC · 03-14-2013, 04:45 PM

Here is a link to the PP's. I'm still working on Thursday/Friday races but I'll take a look at this one Saturday morning.

Pete

patecatl · 03-14-2013, 04:56 PM

Thanks

patecatl · 03-14-2013, 07:29 PM

You know I was solid on Super99 but after looking at the PPs, Im starting to think Treasury Bill and HardRock11 could duke it out if Super99 slows at the end.

atkinsrr · 03-15-2013, 04:01 PM

just completed hcp the Rebel using RDSS....the 3 contenders for the win are
#4 Delhomme #9 Oxbow #10 Super Ninety Nine
#1 Treasury Bill questionable since he has never been a route...doubtful to me
also #6 Den's Legacy...questionable ....but he looks better for the turf...good luck to all

buffaloxp · 03-16-2013, 12:16 AM

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PeteC · 03-16-2013, 09:53 AM

Del, Title and Super are the earlies with Ox being an E/P. Super doesn't need the lead and his pace last race beats the others. If you go back to line 2 at Santa Anita it is even faster.
Treasury is going S-R and using Hat's recommendation of focusing on the 6 furlong time puts this one right there (Last race 7F = 122.2 minus 12 and 4/5's = 109.3 plus a beaten length = 109.4).

I would take those 2.

Ted Craven · 03-16-2013, 11:40 AM

I pick: 10 - 1 - 6. Final wagers, if any, to depend on odds offered.

There is a lot of speed here. IMO, we need some of the Late energy (and visual) runners in the top mix. #10 Super 99 can set fractions better than all the other Earlies, so is my speed-of-the-speed. The #1 Treasury Bill has overcome 1st 2 call times faster than #10, all the while disbursing Top 2 Late energy, and last in G2 company. If it continues to stretch out, it could be a counter to pick up if the other Earlies kill off Super 99.

The other Presser/Sustained #6 Den's, solid Graded company contender though not quite at the finish line. I favour him over the #4 because the #4 is going to have to give his all and more Early versus both the #10 and #9, and it has just not proven yet that it can fight for that lead it needs. Both #6 and #4 have worked in stellar fashion for this return.

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atkinsrr · 03-16-2013, 12:28 PM

Hi guys...looks like we are all coming up with the same contenders for the Rebel...doubt if the toteboard/crowd is going to give us a price here on #10...I'm lookin at under even money on him...got good pace # on #1 Treasury Bill but always leery of a horse trying something that he hasn't done before....that Grade 2 at SA was kind of ????? weak for a G2 but what do I expect...it's 3yo's....being a closer near the rail he better get a good trip, running wide at OP won't help him...won't know what I'm gonna do til' about 5 min to post...good luck all...let's make some $$$$$$$$$$ today

lone speed · 03-16-2013, 01:30 PM

Basically, I see the race the same as Pete....

My route to Sprint for Treasury Bill....

8.5 F....Por....

25.0 50.1 112.3. 1:42.2....

Race comes up early with #10 with the higher weight and outside post...Jockey should tuck in on first turn behind Title Contender....

treasury Bill is number #1 hidden energy and #1 L/Ep...

So ....that's how I see the race unfolding...

Good skills..

03-16-2013, 11:40 AM	#8
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,853	I pick: 10 - 1 - 6. Final wagers, if any, to depend on odds offered. There is a lot of speed here. IMO, we need some of the Late energy (and visual) runners in the top mix. #10 Super 99 can set fractions better than all the other Earlies, so is my speed-of-the-speed. The #1 Treasury Bill has overcome 1st 2 call times faster than #10, all the while disbursing Top 2 Late energy, and last in G2 company. If it continues to stretch out, it could be a counter to pick up if the other Earlies kill off Super 99. The other Presser/Sustained #6 Den's, solid Graded company contender though not quite at the finish line. I favour him over the #4 because the #4 is going to have to give his all and more Early versus both the #10 and #9, and it has just not proven yet that it can fight for that lead it needs. Both #6 and #4 have worked in stellar fashion for this return. __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

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03-14-2013, 01:37 PM	#1
patecatl AlwNW2X Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 29	Rebel Stakes Just curious if anyone has worked up the Rebel Stakes this Sat at Oaklawn. I dont have the PP at the moment but I like SuperNinetyNine.

03-14-2013, 04:56 PM	#3
patecatl AlwNW2X Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 29	Thanks

03-14-2013, 07:29 PM	#4
patecatl AlwNW2X Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 29	You know I was solid on Super99 but after looking at the PPs, Im starting to think Treasury Bill and HardRock11 could duke it out if Super99 slows at the end.

03-15-2013, 04:01 PM	#5
atkinsrr Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 507	just completed hcp the Rebel using RDSS....the 3 contenders for the win are #4 Delhomme #9 Oxbow #10 Super Ninety Nine #1 Treasury Bill questionable since he has never been a route...doubtful to me also #6 Den's Legacy...questionable ....but he looks better for the turf...good luck to all

03-16-2013, 12:16 AM	#6
buffaloxp Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 778	this is my use rdss

03-16-2013, 09:53 AM	#7
PeteC Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 611	Del, Title and Super are the earlies with Ox being an E/P. Super doesn't need the lead and his pace last race beats the others. If you go back to line 2 at Santa Anita it is even faster. Treasury is going S-R and using Hat's recommendation of focusing on the 6 furlong time puts this one right there (Last race 7F = 122.2 minus 12 and 4/5's = 109.3 plus a beaten length = 109.4). I would take those 2.

03-16-2013, 12:28 PM	#9
atkinsrr Grade 1 Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 507	Hi guys...looks like we are all coming up with the same contenders for the Rebel...doubt if the toteboard/crowd is going to give us a price here on #10...I'm lookin at under even money on him...got good pace # on #1 Treasury Bill but always leery of a horse trying something that he hasn't done before....that Grade 2 at SA was kind of ????? weak for a G2 but what do I expect...it's 3yo's....being a closer near the rail he better get a good trip, running wide at OP won't help him...won't know what I'm gonna do til' about 5 min to post...good luck all...let's make some $$$$$$$$$$ today

03-16-2013, 01:30 PM	#10
lone speed Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 695	Basically, I see the race the same as Pete.... My route to Sprint for Treasury Bill.... 8.5 F....Por.... 25.0 50.1 112.3. 1:42.2.... Race comes up early with #10 with the higher weight and outside post...Jockey should tuck in on first turn behind Title Contender.... treasury Bill is number #1 hidden energy and #1 L/Ep... So ....that's how I see the race unfolding... Good skills..