Energy vs Thoromation - Pace and Cap

shoeless · 10-01-2006, 02:16 PM

I have been reading the FU'S and currently Im on issue 28 that deals with Thoromation.I wanted to know what is the difference between the two programs.Jeff

partsnut · 10-02-2006, 05:29 AM

Jeff, from what I can see Energy was originally a stand alone program.

Thoromation is a package of programs which includes Energy, KGEN, EXDC etc.
One of the big differences was the pre-play screens and the Thoromation screen in EXDC. Also, with Thoromation you could put in more contenders
without getting a skewed result. Originally, Energy worked best with the recommended four contenders,

shoeless · 10-02-2006, 07:01 AM

Bill,Thanks Jeff

Houndog · 10-02-2006, 04:49 PM

Thoromation makes much more use of graphics. The numerical readouts are very similar and exactly the same in many cases. It is much easier to do project horses and manually adjust horses in Thoromation then it is in Energy, which may not be necessarily a good thing.

The later versions of Thoromation allowed for 12 entries, which if done will cloud your readouts just as much as entering too many horses in Energy. In certain areas higher numbers are better in Thoromation (100's) where in Energy (0.00) is better. They essentially are the same numbers. The one thing I like about the newer version of Thoromation is the Data Entry screen where you see all the horses as you enter them, rather then one at a time such as in the version of Energy I am using. This makes it easier to catch and correct data entry errors.

shoeless · 10-02-2006, 05:52 PM

Houndog,Thanks for your post Jeff

admin · 10-02-2006, 06:01 PM

Thank you houndog

Yes the lines are easier to enter than on Energy

shoeless · 10-02-2006, 07:38 PM

Houndog,Anytime you want to post something you did with Energy or Thoromation I still would be interested in learning how to be able to use the programs better.Jeff

shoeless · 10-02-2006, 10:30 PM

Mike,Do you ever look at the pace of the race,pace of the horse section on Thoromation with EXDC?Bradshaw on a tape said using that program is how he learned the matchup.Jeff

Houndog · 10-03-2006, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeless

Mike,Do you ever look at the pace of the race,pace of the horse section on Thoromation with EXDC?Bradshaw on a tape said using that program is how he learned the matchup.Jeff

Jeff, I have not looked at that section much in Thoromation, but it does sound like a good idea for learning the Match-Up. I really like Richie's postings in the "Hat" area and this is an area I need to work more at. It seems to me the more we know about the Match-Up the more proficient we will become in using any of the programs we decide to use whether that is Speculator, Energy, Validator, etc.

I think learning the Match-Up is so important as it enables you to select the proper pacelines and contenders. It is great to be able to get your win contenders down to 3 or 4 horses, and in some cases less than that. When you do this these programs are very accurate.

10-03-2006, 07:28 PM

I was under the impression that Thoromation was one of Dr. Sartin's favorites.

10-01-2006, 02:16 PM	#1
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Energy vs Thoromation I have been reading the FU'S and currently Im on issue 28 that deals with Thoromation.I wanted to know what is the difference between the two programs.Jeff

10-02-2006, 06:01 PM	#6
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	Entropy Thank you houndog Yes the lines are easier to enter than on Energy

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10-02-2006, 05:29 AM	#2
partsnut BetMix User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,433	Jeff, from what I can see Energy was originally a stand alone program. Thoromation is a package of programs which includes Energy, KGEN, EXDC etc. One of the big differences was the pre-play screens and the Thoromation screen in EXDC. Also, with Thoromation you could put in more contenders without getting a skewed result. Originally, Energy worked best with the recommended four contenders,

10-02-2006, 07:01 AM	#3
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Bill,Thanks Jeff

10-02-2006, 04:49 PM	#4
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Thoromation makes much more use of graphics. The numerical readouts are very similar and exactly the same in many cases. It is much easier to do project horses and manually adjust horses in Thoromation then it is in Energy, which may not be necessarily a good thing. The later versions of Thoromation allowed for 12 entries, which if done will cloud your readouts just as much as entering too many horses in Energy. In certain areas higher numbers are better in Thoromation (100's) where in Energy (0.00) is better. They essentially are the same numbers. The one thing I like about the newer version of Thoromation is the Data Entry screen where you see all the horses as you enter them, rather then one at a time such as in the version of Energy I am using. This makes it easier to catch and correct data entry errors.

10-02-2006, 05:52 PM	#5
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Houndog,Thanks for your post Jeff

10-02-2006, 07:38 PM	#7
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Houndog,Anytime you want to post something you did with Energy or Thoromation I still would be interested in learning how to be able to use the programs better.Jeff

10-02-2006, 10:30 PM	#8
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,151	Mike,Do you ever look at the pace of the race,pace of the horse section on Thoromation with EXDC?Bradshaw on a tape said using that program is how he learned the matchup.Jeff

10-03-2006, 07:28 PM	#10
Dupree_03 Guest Posts: n/a	I was under the impression that Thoromation was one of Dr. Sartin's favorites.