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Old 08-30-2010, 07:04 PM   #1
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Smile Straight Super On the BL/BL

This is for my forum post regarding the straight superfecta that RDSS yielded via the BL/BL.
What follows is some info regarding a straight
superfecta hit via the BL/BL in RDSS.

The BL/BL listed the top 4 finishers in order for the
6th race at DMR on the 28th of August 2010.

To handicap the race, I used the following tabs:
Original, Primary, Workouts, and Energy.

Here are the pacelines I selected:

El Pitucon (none), Where's the Remote (1),
Carbon Hoofprint (2), Universal Peace (2),
Hugesy (1 and 2), Teafatfiller (none), Pico Pico (none), Concerto's Thunder (none), Call Me Honcho (1 and 2), and Shediak (1 and 3).

The Superfecta paid $466 for a $1 bet.

Also, BL/BL top rated 3 of 7 winners, 2 straight exactas, and one straight trifecta. In total, I netted $600 for $49 in bets.

I hope others will find this interesting and useful and
maybe even inspiring.

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Old 08-30-2010, 08:46 PM   #2
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Here are James' pacelines shown in the BL/BL screen

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If you clean it up a bit: eliminate duplicates and prune to top 5 TE/Line Score, you might get this:

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And the result:

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Interesting first few days with RDSS, James. Keep up the good work!

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Old 08-30-2010, 09:18 PM   #3
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That is beautifull....this is what RDSS is all about and these are the posts that I like to see. GOOD JOB.
You are even mixing dirt lines with turf with great results. This is something that I never tried.

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You are even mixing dirt lines with turf with great results. This is something that I never tried.

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Well, he's mixing Poly and Turf...
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Old 08-30-2010, 10:00 PM   #5
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Well, he's mixing Poly and Turf...
Right..Poly it is but because these are non-comparable surfaces I would never
go near it. It is hard enough to win under comparable conditions. I remember
reading an article in the "Follow-up" on not mixing Dirt with Turf and now Poly
with Turf unless you had good records or something to that effect. so congrats
again to James for that insight.

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Old 08-30-2010, 11:13 PM   #6
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To: Silent Run,

Just wanted to mention that I was influenced by Ted's videos
where he took note of the "Perceptor Totals" while handicapping Woodbine races.

In my straight super race, both Universal Peace and Call Me Honcho had their second best "Perceptor Totals" in Turf races.

Thanks for you comments

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In my handicapping, I have found great success in treating artificial tracks as being similar to turf courses. That is, I have no problem with mixing poly and grass.
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In my handicapping, I have found great success in treating artificial tracks as being similar to turf courses. That is, I have no problem with mixing poly and grass.
That is interesting....I did some research on Poly and found that it is comprised of silica and fibers covered with a wax coating that allows water to drain vertically. This results in a SOFTER and consistent racing surface which has improved the safety of both the horse and jockey. I knew the purpose of Poly was to prevent breakdowns but never went past that.

Then if Poly and Turf are truly comparable I believe it is due to the SOFTER surface of Poly.
This is a new area for me...thanks for your post.

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In my handicapping, I have found great success in treating artificial tracks as being similar to turf courses. That is, I have no problem with mixing poly and grass.
Jim "The Hat" also taught me to mix turf and poly lines while ignoring dirt lines in the races where those other lines were present:
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3741
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Jim Bradshaw is also the person who first mentioned to me that poly and turf work well together. What I had to confirm by watching and handicapping, Jim seemed to know intuitively. Once again, he was right.
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