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Old 07-24-2017, 11:21 AM   #1
delayjf
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Power Move Definition

I understand that a power move is either a move between the 1C and 2C or the 2C and the SC. But can anyone tell me the exact parameters of a power move. I have looked but could not find the answer.
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Old 07-25-2017, 08:20 AM   #2
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What do you mean by exact parameters? If you mean the exact number of positions/lenghts gained, I really dont think it is necessary or even wise to think so rigidly. For me a powermove is a move where horse gains multiple positions and preferably tries to win, for example 1c-2c 9->6 vs. 5->2, both gained 2 positions but I like the latter better, of course pace is important too. Everything depends on everything, there are no easy and fast rules
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:23 AM   #3
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I seemed to remember that the Hat did apply some parameters as to position and lengths gained. Again, I have searched Power Moves, but that incompases a lot of threads, I was hoping someone would know, if in fact there is a definitive definition of a Power Move. Thanks for the reply.
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Old 07-25-2017, 09:50 AM   #4
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Power move continued.....

The guidelines are indeed fluid, and those of us that value, and use the power move, find that race fans undervalue it, their focus is on finish position and the reigning Byer Speed Figure. Was introduced to the move at Waterford Park in Chester West Virginia (now christened Mountainer) in the late 70's.

You're free to set your own guidelines and only time will validate or negate their value. I've found any move, that includes horses passed and lengths gained that equals 5 or more is worth consideration. A move of 7 and it's time bet.

Like every handicapping factor it's just one more to consider. However, any time the betting public is unaware or undervalues this type information it's a green light for me.

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Old 07-25-2017, 04:42 PM   #5
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Would be careful with that power move stuff. Example. 6 Furlong race run in 21 and 44. The horse makes a big move at the end. Is it really a big move or is he or she just passing tiring horses? If i were using power moves to handicap a race you better watch the video of the last race and keep an eye on the fractions. Now if he or she made a power move in a slow pace race now you might have something.

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Old 07-26-2017, 12:43 AM   #6
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Bob,

That is why we analyze the powermoves versus the PROJECTED pace. If you project the pace to be 21 44 because of multiple NTL-horses for example, those powermoves CAN be usefull when found in OTE's pps. If you project a slower race, of course you wouldn't pay attention to a powermove that was made vs 21 44. He will not face that today.
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