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Old 04-24-2023, 09:14 PM   #61
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Ted I use %med every day. By modeling the range of winners at each dist it becomes a very effective elimination factor. If more folks would pay more attention to % med they might improve their game. It is one of the most important factors in the program.

Agreed Tim, how winning horses distribute their energy to the 2nd call point by distance (aka Median energy %) will always be a major tell about who is a prime contender and who is not. Thanks for emphasizing this.


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Old 04-26-2023, 02:43 AM   #62
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I also used 3 Energy Percentage F1, F2, F3 readouts surrounding %Med. Please keep it Thank-you.
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Old 05-24-2023, 06:20 PM   #63
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I don't go back far enough in Sartin Methodology times
to have even heard of pace vectors.

After my break from handicapping, I saw those numbers
for the first time in RDSS yesterday. They seem interesting.

Thanks for the explanation guys in page 6 of this thread

just keeping my trajectory in the positive

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Old 05-24-2023, 10:01 PM   #64
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2023 - Kentucky Derby

Hi Mike,

Glad you found it useful.

I did not play the Kentucky Derby, I usually do poorly in Grade 1 races, and I have little to no experience handicapping Churchill Downs, but after the race, when I looked at my contenders to see how they did, I noticed something about the Pace Vector F3's.

Ranked in order of who over came the 3rd fraction of their last race the best, I show the top 5 in order as:

8 Mage
14 Angel
1 Hit Sh
3 Two Ph
22 Mandar

The top 4 horses on this list were 4 of the top 5 finishers in the Derby. The 5th, Mandarin Hero's comment says he was bumped hard, don't know if that played a role in his bad finish or not.

Like I said, I do not normally handicap 10f races or Churchill Downs races, so I do not know if this is normal, but it seems like a strong indication that the F3 Pace Vector was something to consider.

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