Saturday - GP Handicap - Grade 2 - Pace and Cap

RichieP · 03-11-2011, 07:37 AM

Here is tomorrows Gulfstream Handicap - Race 10 (Post is 5:20 PM Eastern)

8f on the dirt is a ONE turn mile

RichieP · 03-11-2011, 07:39 AM

The field with tandem finishes shown

RichieP · 03-11-2011, 07:40 AM

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raceman5 · 03-11-2011, 12:53 PM

6-4-7-5 box exacta,tri, super, and 2 longest odds horses to win.

Bob

Bill Lyster · 03-11-2011, 08:43 PM

I think race runs OTE because the pace is going to be about the same as line 1 from horse 1

23.4 - 46.7 - 110.5 - 135.2

Tackleberry and Our Dark Knight have pushes such a pace and even though I really cannot tell who will set this pace I think the 1-2-3 insure that something near this pace gets run. The best times of these three at this pace are in the mid 135's (135.2 -135.6)

If so it eliminates the 4-5-8 who have only been successful against 112 or so.

Lines 2 or 3 from the six would take this field after all the early work done up front. He can run from 3rd 1 or 2 lengths off. I would like to see a win from the 4th or 5th hole, so that is where the 7 comes in. He ran as S or SP in the last vs Tackleberry and closed nicely.

My choices are the 6 and the 7. Tizway and Soaring Empire.

Bill

Rverge · 03-11-2011, 08:56 PM

r10 gp. #3 and #6.win bets i like the 3 also because i watched him run both times and at GP and chashed a win ticket w/ him in the jan. 29 race. 64 smacks or so

. last race was 4-1

cdax · 03-11-2011, 11:05 PM

Well, let's bet against Tackleberry for the third time!

With some good speed in the race I keep landing on 6 Tizway for an OTE win.

$10 win 6
$2 ex bx 6,3,1

Good luck all.

Chris

PeteC · 03-12-2011, 12:20 AM

Running Styles:
1- E…has only won on the lead…will fight for it too.
2- E/P
3- E…can fight and has won from 2nd position.
4- P
5- E/P…best races were pressing, but tried for the lead in the last three
6- E/P…can win from 1st 2nd 3rd even 4th at the break
7- P/S
8- E/P…Ran sustained in lines 9 & 10, but last three races look early

Projected Pace:
Tricky to find an exact line to project from, so I kind of blended several lines and roughly estimated 46-and-change 110-and-change.

Early or OTE:
With 2 pure early horses who imo don’t have an edge over the E/P’s, I’m looking for the race to run OTE . I’ll look at the E/P’s as well as the P and P/S…

Match Up:
#2 Nice win last out. Held second position all the way vs my projected pace or faster in lines 2 and 4. I used line 9 as the power line (4-2-1-1) vs 46.2 110.7…Contender
#4 Only faced today’s pace or better once, line 9, bad result…OUT
#5 Ditto for this horse. Also has been more early lately and fading vs slower pace…OUT
#6 Lines 2, 8 and 10 are route wins against faster than projected pace…Contender
#7 Closed to finish 2nd in a sprint last time. I took line 2 as the power line (2-2-1-1) against 46.6 110.3..Contender
#8 No good finishes against 46-change 110-change pace…OUT

I’m left with 2,6 and 7. I’ll accept the power lines of #6 and choose it to win. I’ll box it in the exacta with 2 and 7.

RichieP · 03-12-2011, 01:42 PM

FPLR is the #6 - help position 1c-2c

#1 - should have to run OTE here - vulnerable - out

#2 - looks like slow suck along type against today's pace - out

#3 - pacesetter today -wants the lead and will get it - contender

#4 - should have to be running deep sustained and hasn't shown ability to do this in pps - out

#5 - Sleeper here -laid off and goes back to favored Fla surfaces. line 8 puts him ahead of #1 - if ready to fire price potential - contender

#6 - Beast - probable winner and reason I put this race up. can we get a price or will he be hammered? - contender

#7 - should be closer today - contender

#8 - roach - out

#

Best of luck everyone!

** Can someone please put result chart up for me as I am away til probably Monday. THANK YOU in advance

**

Bill V. · 03-12-2011, 01:51 PM

Running styles first fraction Earlys

H1 EAR 46.8
H2 EAR/EP 47.8
H3 EAR 48.6
H4 Pres
H5 E/P when in form ??
H6 E/P 46.0
H7 Multi 46.6
H8 EAR 47.0

FPLR Horse 3
I will use the 3/7 tandem race from Feb 12
as my projected pace
22.8 45.9 109.7 and usingHats 1 turn mile adjustment
from 7.0 to 1 mile 135.3

my to five contender 1 3 4 6 7
all have s/p or Sus energy

I see 6 3 and 7
my bets
3 and 7
GS
Bill V.
Vero Beach FL

03-12-2011, 01:42 PM	#9
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	FPLR is the #6 - help position 1c-2c #1 - should have to run OTE here - vulnerable - out #2 - looks like slow suck along type against today's pace - out #3 - pacesetter today -wants the lead and will get it - contender #4 - should have to be running deep sustained and hasn't shown ability to do this in pps - out #5 - Sleeper here -laid off and goes back to favored Fla surfaces. line 8 puts him ahead of #1 - if ready to fire price potential - contender #6 - Beast - probable winner and reason I put this race up. can we get a price or will he be hammered? - contender #7 - should be closer today - contender #8 - roach - out # Best of luck everyone! Can someone please put result chart up for me as I am away til probably Monday. THANK YOU in advance __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

03-12-2011, 01:51 PM	#10
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Race 1 mile Running styles first fraction Earlys H1 EAR 46.8 H2 EAR/EP 47.8 H3 EAR 48.6 H4 Pres H5 E/P when in form ?? H6 E/P 46.0 H7 Multi 46.6 H8 EAR 47.0 FPLR Horse 3 I will use the 3/7 tandem race from Feb 12 as my projected pace 22.8 45.9 109.7 and usingHats 1 turn mile adjustment from 7.0 to 1 mile 135.3 my to five contender 1 3 4 6 7 all have s/p or Sus energy I see 6 3 and 7 my bets 3 and 7 GS Bill V. Vero Beach FL

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Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,418	I think race runs OTE because the pace is going to be about the same as line 1 from horse 1 23.4 - 46.7 - 110.5 - 135.2 Tackleberry and Our Dark Knight have pushes such a pace and even though I really cannot tell who will set this pace I think the 1-2-3 insure that something near this pace gets run. The best times of these three at this pace are in the mid 135's (135.2 -135.6) If so it eliminates the 4-5-8 who have only been successful against 112 or so. Lines 2 or 3 from the six would take this field after all the early work done up front. He can run from 3rd 1 or 2 lengths off. I would like to see a win from the 4th or 5th hole, so that is where the 7 comes in. He ran as S or SP in the last vs Tackleberry and closed nicely. My choices are the 6 and the 7. Tizway and Soaring Empire. Bill

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Rverge Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: pittsburgh, now! Lancaster, CA. Posts: 2,531	r10 gp. #3 and #6.win bets i like the 3 also because i watched him run both times and at GP and chashed a win ticket w/ him in the jan. 29 race. 64 smacks or so. last race was 4-1 __________________ i love every single minute of life, and, if one is lucky,then you must give it to others.

03-11-2011, 11:05 PM	#7
cdax Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 224	Well, let's bet against Tackleberry for the third time! With some good speed in the race I keep landing on 6 Tizway for an OTE win. $10 win 6 $2 ex bx 6,3,1 Good luck all. Chris

03-12-2011, 12:20 AM	#8
PeteC Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 611	Running Styles: 1- E…has only won on the lead…will fight for it too. 2- E/P 3- E…can fight and has won from 2nd position. 4- P 5- E/P…best races were pressing, but tried for the lead in the last three 6- E/P…can win from 1st 2nd 3rd even 4th at the break 7- P/S 8- E/P…Ran sustained in lines 9 & 10, but last three races look early Projected Pace: Tricky to find an exact line to project from, so I kind of blended several lines and roughly estimated 46-and-change 110-and-change. Early or OTE: With 2 pure early horses who imo don’t have an edge over the E/P’s, I’m looking for the race to run OTE . I’ll look at the E/P’s as well as the P and P/S… Match Up: #2 Nice win last out. Held second position all the way vs my projected pace or faster in lines 2 and 4. I used line 9 as the power line (4-2-1-1) vs 46.2 110.7…Contender #4 Only faced today’s pace or better once, line 9, bad result…OUT #5 Ditto for this horse. Also has been more early lately and fading vs slower pace…OUT #6 Lines 2, 8 and 10 are route wins against faster than projected pace…Contender #7 Closed to finish 2nd in a sprint last time. I took line 2 as the power line (2-2-1-1) against 46.6 110.3..Contender #8 No good finishes against 46-change 110-change pace…OUT I’m left with 2,6 and 7. I’ll accept the power lines of #6 and choose it to win. I’ll box it in the exacta with 2 and 7.