DMR Friday Breeders Cup - Pace and Cap

So Cal Al · 11-02-2017, 09:35 PM

Any thoughts on how to handle Race 6 and Race 8 with large fields and foreign horses. Some would suggest to wait for scratches and then pass each of them.

RichieP · 11-03-2017, 06:44 AM

Personally I'm passing the races where I cant get a handle on runners, the 2 you mentioned are passes.

I'm definitely playing against the favs in the 9th race Distaff. I'm on the #6 Forever Unbridled. OTE

Best of luck

Lt1 · 11-03-2017, 08:11 AM

Races 6 &8 are pass races. In fact any race with more then 1 unknown factor should be passed.
Tim

Ted Craven · 11-03-2017, 11:21 AM

If I recall rightly, this race is more often won by Euros and there are plenty.

However, I have had some great scores by simply comparing the Trackmaster SR versus Race Class rating (aka Timefom International ratings) for the Euros versus the North Americans, using the Original screen.

Doing this reveals the #2 Happily (117 SR from a 131 Race Class RC) a standout. A possibility is #10 September (with a 119 SR in a lesser calibre 103 RC race rating) but she is unproven at the distance. I'll add the best looking NA horse #11 Rushing Fall. The 7 and 8 could be underneath.

If I play the BC late Pick4, I have to come up with something, but for a single race wager, though it's not a prime bet for me, if there are any odds on those 2 Euros in particular, it could make for good entertainment.

Or -- PASS

Good luck!

Ted

mick · 11-03-2017, 11:22 AM

While I agree with Richie and Tim, here are my "recreational" Pick 4 tickets for races 6-9. Caveat bettor. Yes, I'm guessing a lot but they're cheaper than Powerball tickets.

Ticket A: 2, 10, 7, 11, 13 WT 3, 6 WT 6, 7 WT 4, 5 ($20)
Ticket B: 2, 10, 7 WT 3, 6 WT 6, 7 WT 2, 6 ($12)

Ted Craven · 11-03-2017, 11:22 AM

I moved this thread to ... The 2017 Breeders Cup Forum.

Ted

cigar · 11-03-2017, 11:37 AM

R7 - A: Happily - Capla Temptress (my long shot) B: September - Rushing Fall
R8 - A: Cupid - Practical Joke - Post? B: More Spirt -Battle of Midway
R9 - A: Masar - James Garfield B: Untamed Domain - Voting Control
R10 A: Elate B: Able Tasman

Good luck with your selections.....................

So Cal Al · 11-03-2017, 12:08 PM

Ted:
I use your approach if I must play these races. In Race 6, I had September with a 113 class rating and a 119 SR as a possible play

Bill Lyster · 11-03-2017, 12:23 PM

Juvenile Colts Turf race:

The top two Euros on the New Pace Trackmaster ratings have won 6 of the last 9 races with two deep closers (non Euro) the next most prominent.

Euros 1 and 6, deep closer #4

Good luck today

Mitch44 · 11-03-2017, 12:29 PM

I would suggest you use the CR or CR+ depending on the version your using to determine the contenders. Then use a blend of the top 2 foreign with the top two U.S. for contenders. For the 5th contender I would use the 3rd highest foreign horse. This will give you the best of both worlds (ha ha) I believe the CR is better than Timeform SR because it contains 3 different rating and is a more complex rating rather than a single factor.

I also use the Timeform but adjust it, as they run higher than our SR's and their different for turf and dirt.

Mitch44

11-03-2017, 08:11 AM	#3
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 7,728	Races 6 &8 are pass races. In fact any race with more then 1 unknown factor should be passed. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

11-03-2017, 11:22 AM	#5
mick Abiding Student Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 706	While I agree with Richie and Tim, here are my "recreational" Pick 4 tickets for races 6-9. Caveat bettor. Yes, I'm guessing a lot but they're cheaper than Powerball tickets. Ticket A: 2, 10, 7, 11, 13 WT 3, 6 WT 6, 7 WT 4, 5 ($20) Ticket B: 2, 10, 7 WT 3, 6 WT 6, 7 WT 2, 6 ($12) __________________ mick Illustrated Glossary

11-03-2017, 11:37 AM	#7
cigar 3-3-1 - 3-3-2 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 392	Friday's Pick R7 - A: Happily - Capla Temptress (my long shot) B: September - Rushing Fall R8 - A: Cupid - Practical Joke - Post? B: More Spirt -Battle of Midway R9 - A: Masar - James Garfield B: Untamed Domain - Voting Control R10 A: Elate B: Able Tasman Good luck with your selections.....................

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11-02-2017, 09:35 PM	#1
So Cal Al So Cal Al Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego/ La Quinta Posts: 214	DMR Friday Breeders Cup Any thoughts on how to handle Race 6 and Race 8 with large fields and foreign horses. Some would suggest to wait for scratches and then pass each of them.

11-03-2017, 06:44 AM	#2
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,011	Personally I'm passing the races where I cant get a handle on runners, the 2 you mentioned are passes. I'm definitely playing against the favs in the 9th race Distaff. I'm on the #6 Forever Unbridled. OTE Best of luck Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

11-03-2017, 11:21 AM	#4
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,650	If I recall rightly, this race is more often won by Euros and there are plenty. However, I have had some great scores by simply comparing the Trackmaster SR versus Race Class rating (aka Timefom International ratings) for the Euros versus the North Americans, using the Original screen. Doing this reveals the #2 Happily (117 SR from a 131 Race Class RC) a standout. A possibility is #10 September (with a 119 SR in a lesser calibre 103 RC race rating) but she is unproven at the distance. I'll add the best looking NA horse #11 Rushing Fall. The 7 and 8 could be underneath. If I play the BC late Pick4, I have to come up with something, but for a single race wager, though it's not a prime bet for me, if there are any odds on those 2 Euros in particular, it could make for good entertainment. Or -- PASS Good luck! Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

11-03-2017, 12:08 PM	#8
So Cal Al So Cal Al Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego/ La Quinta Posts: 214	Ted: I use your approach if I must play these races. In Race 6, I had September with a 113 class rating and a 119 SR as a possible play

11-03-2017, 12:23 PM	#9
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,393	Juvenile Colts Turf race: The top two Euros on the New Pace Trackmaster ratings have won 6 of the last 9 races with two deep closers (non Euro) the next most prominent. Euros 1 and 6, deep closer #4 Good luck today

11-03-2017, 12:29 PM	#10
Mitch44 Grade 1 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: The Villages, Fl. Posts: 3,462	I would suggest you use the CR or CR+ depending on the version your using to determine the contenders. Then use a blend of the top 2 foreign with the top two U.S. for contenders. For the 5th contender I would use the 3rd highest foreign horse. This will give you the best of both worlds (ha ha) I believe the CR is better than Timeform SR because it contains 3 different rating and is a more complex rating rather than a single factor. I also use the Timeform but adjust it, as they run higher than our SR's and their different for turf and dirt. Mitch44 Last edited by Mitch44; 11-03-2017 at 12:34 PM.