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Old 10-27-2017, 09:21 PM   #101
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Today there was a horse running that was at the top of the Energy readouts
but running at this distance had 13 starts 0 wins 4 2nds 2 3rds. Would this
have affected your decision if to bet it or not

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Both of your questions, today, are way to complicated to answer with such little information.

And I am still a little uneasy when you say a horse was "at the top" of the readouts. Based on things you have said previously lead me to believe you are looking at the rankings, which are always ordered by the "early" or "EP" column, and saying that is "the top". Horses "at the top" would only be the correct horses to play if the variegate is "EARLY". Other than that, they may not be the "top" horses. I hope you understand what I mean.
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Old 10-28-2017, 11:14 AM   #102
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I didn't mean top in the rankings as only look at that now if race is
early.

Lets say in general looking at PP'S if you have a contender that does
not fare well at today's distance will you still consider it as a win bet.

Your right about the other question it was too confusing

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Hopes this makes sense

I am having a problem of liking horses and then going back and finding
excuses either not to bet them or bet very little. This happened to me
recently with a 9-1 shot that Energy had and today with a 5-2 horse.

I really am not sure if it's due to lack of confidence or not

Any suggestions?

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Hi Jeff

Have you tried writing down on a peace of paper all you wager decisions ?
Maybe make a wager decision form and circle all your win bets.
Always focus on your winning decisions , Another helpful thing for you is write down next to Energy's win contenders, whether you feel it is a positive or negative bet,

If you bet a horse at 5/2 Is this a positive? It probably is , so you should make a full bet,
If you come up with a 9/1 this is a big positive cause even at just a $2 bet you are going to make a 16 dollar profit,
By and large the best thing to do to improve your confidence is to focus on your wins

The best to you.
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Old 10-28-2017, 04:19 PM   #104
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Thanks Bill

Hope your feeling better

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I didn't mean top in the rankings as only look at that now if race is
early.

Lets say in general looking at PP'S if you have a contender that does
not fare well at today's distance will you still consider it as a win bet.

Your right about the other question it was too confusing

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Old 10-29-2017, 12:58 PM   #106
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I am extremely grateful for all of the help you have given me and
plan on following your advice. I have been very fortunate to have
you and Bill V take the time to try and help me.

I hope others have benefited from this thread

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Old 10-29-2017, 03:52 PM   #107
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i have a version called EXDC. It has just about every thing Energy, Phase 1, Entropy ,Thromation and an odds line generator

Jim Bradshaw just kept adding readouts and combining programs if a client wanted it.

Energy and KGEN were awesome programs

Bill
Bill,

EXDC or EXDCX were 2 of the best programs that came out of the early
Sartin methodology. I use to use Energy for the long forgotten BRIS contests and placed 12th and 13th out of thousands of participants many years ago.
The complexity of todays race cards makes horse racing quite a challenge.
Most software products fall short of the mark. However, I am finding that the Sartin Methodology still holds up if you are selective in what type of races you choose to play and the software you choose to play them with.

I will use EXDCX every so often. I like the preplay and Thoromation screens as well as the odds projector.
Bill, as you said, they are still great programs.

I hope you are feeling better.
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Were there 2 different ways of doing the + and O's, I thought at first there was no + within the O

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Doc's written and spoken guidelines get "telephoned" Its best to go to the source.

This is from the heart and soul very beginning The Yellow Manual
there is nothing earlier than "old yeller"

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Thanks you and FTL have gotten me started to use this

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