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Old 06-29-2016, 12:44 PM   #1
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Queens Plate 2016

Canada's premier 3 YO Summer race and kickoff of Canadian Triple Crown runs Sunday July 3.

Here are the Post Position draws from this morning:

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Old 06-29-2016, 01:02 PM   #2
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Canada's premier 3 YO Summer race and kickoff of Canadian Triple Crown runs Sunday July 3.

Here are the Post Position draws from this morning:

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Post your opinions, analyses and wagers here!

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Will be there for the festivities

My Contenders:

6 - Shakhimat - will improve from Plate Trial

10 - Amis Gizmo - Plate Trial was impressive

13 - Gamble's Ghost - wide post position may hung out wide on the first turn

4 - Leavem in Malibu - not sure what to make of this horse, has high foot action suggesting he will like the turf or he did not like the track that day. What do I know
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Old 06-29-2016, 03:31 PM   #3
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Will be there for the festivities

My Contenders:

6 - Shakhimat - will improve from Plate Trial

10 - Amis Gizmo - Plate Trial was impressive

13 - Gamble's Ghost - wide post position may hung out wide on the first turn

4 - Leavem in Malibu - not sure what to make of this horse, has high foot action suggesting he will like the turf or he did not like the track that day. What do I know
Post positions are irrelevant in the Queen’s Plate due to the long stretch run before the first turn, the jock’s have ample time to position the horse.
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Old 06-29-2016, 04:05 PM   #4
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Thanks for the good news

Hoof thanks for the tip , Also is it me or does a Filly win this race every year ?
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Old 06-29-2016, 04:26 PM   #5
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Yes, sometimes females, and sometimes males, as last year's Shaman Ghost.

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Old 06-30-2016, 03:14 AM   #6
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Trackmaster has released the file early, and it looks like a good card with 13 races and 5 Stakes races.
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Old 06-30-2016, 11:59 AM   #7
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Post positions are irrelevant in the Queen’s Plate due to the long stretch run before the first turn, the jock’s have ample time to position the horse.
Thanks Hoof, leaning toward 6-13. with my longshot #5 - Good luck all
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Old 06-30-2016, 04:41 PM   #8
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The Plate

The Queen’s Plate, the longest continuously run major stakes race in North America, has a long and varied history. During WWI it was held as a SINGLE contest in the midst of a country wide ban because of the war, just to keep the spirit of it going.

It was originally run (like most major races of the mid 1800’s) as a heat race: the winner had to successfully win two separate heats to be accorded the win. The conditions of the race: "Open to horses owned and bred in Upper Canada that had never won a match, purse or sweepstakes." It was only opened to horse outside of Ontario in the early 50's.

It has been staged all over the province: Woodbine (continually since 1883), Guelph (Turf Club Course), Ottawa (Mutchman Driving Park), Toronto (Carleton course and Newmarket Course), St Catherine’s (Turf Club Grounds), London (Newmarket Race Course), Whitby (race course), Kingston (Cataraqui Course), Picton (Driving Park), Hamilton (Rider and Drivers Park), Woodstock, and Barrie (Barrie Park Course).

In 1865 a “ringer” who ran under that name Stone Plover was disqualified when it turned out that the animal was American owned (Michigan) and the horse that ran was probably a winning gelding named Limerick Boy. A second horse was DQ’d in that same race due to a discrepancy of impost when weighing out.

Source: The Plate: A Royal Tradition, by Emeritus Hall of Fame director Lou Cauz
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Interesting history Tim. Thanks for posting it.
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Old 06-30-2016, 06:12 PM   #10
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One insight on the Plate

The front end has historically done very well in the Plate with T J's Lucky Moon the greatest example paying $166.00. Others, all of recent vintage, were Wando, Woodcarver, Dancethruthedawn, Nigon, Edenworld (close to wiring), my favorite Mike Fox (that year the TOP three ranked 2nd call colts ran 1 2 3), Midnight Aria and Strait of Dover..

Recall many of these are lightly raced and few have even gone 9 panels very often before.
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