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Old 12-10-2022, 07:25 PM   #1
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12/10 Aqu r6 screenshots

Here are the bl/bl and rx screens for r6 winner #7 a Richie Mathie lsp ie non contender ranking in top 5 of both vdc #4 and csr #5.

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Old 12-15-2022, 05:14 PM   #2
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Hi Tim,

This is probably going to seem like a really dumb question, and since I do not have the original lines, maybe something in the past performances explains it, but why was 9 a contender but not 7?

It looks from the screen shot like 6,2,9 and 7 were all in a tandem race together. From the adjusted SR, it seems like 7 and 9 finished about the same distance back of 6 which I would guess to be about 4 lengths behind from the difference in adjust speed rating. 7 has a morning line odds of 8-1, and from my own records, I know that the vast majority of winners have morning line odds of 8-1 or less, which was the same morning line odds for your contender the 5.

I am curious why you had 7 in the non contenders?

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Hi Dan. My contenders are always the top 5 ranked Profit and Prime ranked horses therefore the 7 was a non contender for me to start. I do look at all non contenders just in case. However as I pointed out it was the LSP for the race since it was a non contender ranked in the top 5 of both CSR & VDC [Richie Mathies' definition] and did win. Here's the ticket I played
Dec 10 234 PM Complete Aqueduct 5 Double $1.00 3,7/2,3,5-7,9 $12.00 $135.50 $123.50 Hope that helps.
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Thanks Tim,

Brilliant bet. I would have had the horse as a contender because of the tandem race he was in with the other 3 contenders and his proximity to them in that tandem race, but looking at your screenshots, I probably would not have had the courage to bet him. Well done.
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Thanks Dan.
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Good example, Tim!
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Old 12-16-2022, 06:53 AM   #7
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Thanks Ranch. We have Richie Mathie to thank for sharing the angle with us. It's been good to me. Sure do miss him.
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Hi Dan. My contenders are always the top 5 ranked Profit and Prime ranked horses therefore the 7 was a non contender for me to start. I do look at all non contenders just in case. However as I pointed out it was the LSP for the race since it was a non contender ranked in the top 5 of both CSR & VDC [Richie Mathies' definition] and did win. Here's the ticket I played
Dec 10 234 PM Complete Aqueduct 5 Double $1.00 3,7/2,3,5-7,9 $12.00 $135.50 $123.50 Hope that helps.
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When you say prime are you referring to the primary factors in the Primary Screen.
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Old 12-16-2022, 10:38 PM   #9
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Sorry Don I should have said Bris Prime Power rank. I model the primary factors. Sorry for the confusion.
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Thanks for the clarification Tim.
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