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Old 04-25-2022, 12:04 PM   #1
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Follow Up On Rmaths' 4 Number System

Richie and I would talk daily about our selections and how he used the 4 number approach. The main factor was that horses having all 4 numbers[with at least 1 #3 rank] were winning between 85 to 90% of the races. Richie had and extensive data base. Since his untimely passing there hasn't been much in the way of follow ups on the approach. With this in mind I decided to conduct another 100 race survey. The tracks involved were Parx, MVR,LRL, and GP. The survey included all class levels[mdns to Stks] of the races I capped. Here are the results

Winning Horses with all 4 #s[with at least 1 #3 ranking]
80 of 100
Winning Horse with all 4 #s[no #3 ranking]
6 of 100
Winning Horses with 3 #s[regardless of rankings]
9 of 100
Winning Horse with 2 #s
2 of 100
Winning Horses with 1 #
2 of 100
Winning horse with 0 #s
1 of 100
So folks 86% of my winners had all 4 numbers and 9% had 3 numbers. In my humble opinion that's a pretty powerful stat and validates all of Richies' hard work and unselfish sharing of the info. I suggest that folks also read his longshot play approach.
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Old 04-25-2022, 12:52 PM   #2
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Should have added the minimum field size was 8.
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Old 04-25-2022, 04:54 PM   #3
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Should have added the minimum field size was 8.
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Great information. thanks.
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Old 04-25-2022, 05:05 PM   #4
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You are welcome but all the credit goes to my late friend Richie Mathie. He was such a caring and sharing person and of course a great capper. Doc. acknowledged him several times in the F/U by posting several of his many signers from MNR where he was known as the computer guy. We suffered a great loss with his passing.
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Old 04-26-2022, 02:27 PM   #5
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Thanks Tim for the update
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:50 PM   #6
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You are welcome Jeff.
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Old 04-26-2022, 04:09 PM   #7
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Good stuff, Tim.
Always pays to re-validate from time to time, to either make adjustments or fuel your confidence.
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Old 04-26-2022, 04:11 PM   #8
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Thanks Tom.
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Tim, was your information as it relates to CSR just as it comes originally from RDSS or do the ratings numbers for CSR reflect an occasional need to recalculate based on one or more bad races in the last four running lines.

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Hi Bill. All the info listed here was based on my final numbers[including any adj to CSR#].
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