e/l relativity - Page 7 - Pace and Cap

tompkins · 03-12-2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62

As stated previously... It has merit for sprints... It'll catch a few winners for Routes... Mr. Tompkins won't share or doesn't have statistics on its long term performance in routes so I CAUTION anyone on applying it without running a 20 race test....

I worked TWO tracks yesterday and look at the ones put up SEVERAL....SOMETHING THAT PERVASIVE IS NOT AN ACCIDENT. again the proof is left to the student

tompkins · 03-12-2006, 12:34 PM

Change, even the IDEA of change, is such a foreign concept to people that given the opportunity to try something different or stay EXACTLY the same, the vast majority would not even attempt to consider ANTHING other than what they have done all along. THis is just simple human nature that I have contended with it for years in my practice. it is such a pervasive thing that the same idea (resistance to change) is even in the Declaration of Independence: "all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

Human nature does not change so why should individuals? You have to look at the single screen and multiple lines for this to work, NOT stay in the same mindset you were before selecting SINGLE lines....of course it won't work then. I had a long resistance to this as well, so I am not suprised.

To see if an angle works one must do the same things one did in finding that angle, not bias it by NOT even following the same protocols.

Like I said: if it doesn't work for you (or even TRY it) don't tell me it doesn't work akin to Judge Judy's great book title "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."

tompkins · 03-12-2006, 01:18 PM

1st race - Aqueduct - March 12, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
6 Whoa 5.80 4.60 3.80
2 Finnegans in Again 5.40 4.20
8 Blaise Pascale 7.30

another ROUTE where 2 out of the top three e/'s ran one/two

tompkins · 03-12-2006, 02:02 PM

3rd at the big A: top three=top three finishers and, like in many a sprint, the TOP e/l ran third
3rd race - Aqueduct - March 12, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
5 Grand Idea 7.90 2.90 2.40
2 Jodif 2.30 2.10
3 Miz Yah Beaux 5.10

$2 Exacta 5-2 18.40
$2 Trifecta 5-2-3 86.50

tompkins · 03-12-2006, 02:34 PM

Another route and this one keeps rolling along. Winner is one of the top TWO e/l positives. I KNOW it is hard to believe as it took me a long time to accept it, but there it is AGAIN.
4th race - Aqueduct - March 12, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
6 C Senor 23.60 7.80 5.40
8 Big Boo Boo 3.70 2.70
2 He's Up to Snuff 2.90

$2 Exacta 6-8 81.50
$2 Quinella 6-8 43.40
$2 Trifecta 6-8-2 278.00

tompkins · 03-12-2006, 03:07 PM

amazing.....and this track has produced a smilar SUB STRUCTURE now for over three years

h race - Aqueduct - March 12, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
3 Majestic Karakorum 61.00 18.80 9.20
2 Top Secret Speed 4.50 3.00
4 Western Accent 3.10

$2 Exacta 3-2 247.50
$2 Superfecta 3-2-4-6 10,211.00 TOP FOUR E/L's right here
$2 Trifecta 3-2-4 658.00

tompkins · 03-13-2006, 04:52 PM

another route
Winning Time: 1:43.62
Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
1 Count On Me Harry Vega 6.60 3.60 2.60
6 Devil's Mark Anthony S. Black 3.20 2.80
3 Go North Na Somsanith 4.00

tompkins · 03-13-2006, 04:58 PM

Winning Time: 1:42.82
Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
3 Most Bossest Harry Vega 8.20 3.80 2.40
5 Exit Four Frankie Pennington 3.20 2.40
4 In Depth Look Joanne McDaid 2.20
Also ran: 6 - Afleet Deputy , 7 - Unbridled Will , 2 - Longfamilycalling , 8 - Rustlite

tompkins · 03-13-2006, 05:05 PM

gm Horse Jockey Win Place Show
7 Another Way Eriluis Vaz 3.20 2.20 2.20
2 Before Today Jose Luis Flores 7.00 4.60
9 Bajer M Yamil Rosario 2.40
Also ran: 1 - Bernie's Crypt , 4 - Goodlooking Guy , 3 - Crypto's Dream , 5 - My Boy Anthony

admin · 03-14-2006, 05:33 AM

This one was easier for me to grasp

from RichieP's thread demo race
Top 3 Early with Total Energy dominate this time
in the trifecta

10 New Opportunity Deshawn L. Parker 17.20 7.80 3.80
6 Jersey Monster Oswald M. Pereira 3.60 3.00
3 May Boy Benjamin Marcial 3.80

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03-12-2006, 12:34 PM	#62
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	Change, even the IDEA of change, is such a foreign concept to people that given the opportunity to try something different or stay EXACTLY the same, the vast majority would not even attempt to consider ANTHING other than what they have done all along. THis is just simple human nature that I have contended with it for years in my practice. it is such a pervasive thing that the same idea (resistance to change) is even in the Declaration of Independence: "all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed." Human nature does not change so why should individuals? You have to look at the single screen and multiple lines for this to work, NOT stay in the same mindset you were before selecting SINGLE lines....of course it won't work then. I had a long resistance to this as well, so I am not suprised. To see if an angle works one must do the same things one did in finding that angle, not bias it by NOT even following the same protocols. Like I said: if it doesn't work for you (or even TRY it) don't tell me it doesn't work akin to Judge Judy's great book title "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining." __________________ velocititian

03-12-2006, 01:18 PM	#63
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	1st race - Aqueduct - March 12, 2006 Pgm Horse Win Place Show 6 Whoa 5.80 4.60 3.80 2 Finnegans in Again 5.40 4.20 8 Blaise Pascale 7.30 another ROUTE where 2 out of the top three e/'s ran one/two Attached Images __________________ velocititian

03-12-2006, 02:02 PM	#64
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	3rd at the big A: top three=top three finishers and, like in many a sprint, the TOP e/l ran third 3rd race - Aqueduct - March 12, 2006 Pgm Horse Win Place Show 5 Grand Idea 7.90 2.90 2.40 2 Jodif 2.30 2.10 3 Miz Yah Beaux 5.10 $2 Exacta 5-2 18.40 $2 Trifecta 5-2-3 86.50 Attached Images __________________ velocititian Last edited by tompkins; 03-12-2006 at 02:08 PM.

03-12-2006, 02:34 PM	#65
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	Another route and this one keeps rolling along. Winner is one of the top TWO e/l positives. I KNOW it is hard to believe as it took me a long time to accept it, but there it is AGAIN. 4th race - Aqueduct - March 12, 2006 Pgm Horse Win Place Show 6 C Senor 23.60 7.80 5.40 8 Big Boo Boo 3.70 2.70 2 He's Up to Snuff 2.90 $2 Exacta 6-8 81.50 $2 Quinella 6-8 43.40 $2 Trifecta 6-8-2 278.00 Attached Images __________________ velocititian

03-12-2006, 03:07 PM	#66
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	amazing.....and this track has produced a smilar SUB STRUCTURE now for over three years h race - Aqueduct - March 12, 2006 Pgm Horse Win Place Show 3 Majestic Karakorum 61.00 18.80 9.20 2 Top Secret Speed 4.50 3.00 4 Western Accent 3.10 $2 Exacta 3-2 247.50 $2 Superfecta 3-2-4-6 10,211.00 TOP FOUR E/L's right here $2 Trifecta 3-2-4 658.00 Attached Images __________________ velocititian Last edited by tompkins; 03-12-2006 at 03:11 PM.

03-13-2006, 04:52 PM	#67
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	another track another route Winning Time: 1:43.62 Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show 1 Count On Me Harry Vega 6.60 3.60 2.60 6 Devil's Mark Anthony S. Black 3.20 2.80 3 Go North Na Somsanith 4.00 Attached Images __________________ velocititian

03-13-2006, 04:58 PM	#68
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	another route Winning Time: 1:42.82 Pgm Horse Jockey Win Place Show 3 Most Bossest Harry Vega 8.20 3.80 2.40 5 Exit Four Frankie Pennington 3.20 2.40 4 In Depth Look Joanne McDaid 2.20 Also ran: 6 - Afleet Deputy , 7 - Unbridled Will , 2 - Longfamilycalling , 8 - Rustlite Attached Images __________________ velocititian

03-13-2006, 05:05 PM	#69
tompkins Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 708	another race, another route gm Horse Jockey Win Place Show 7 Another Way Eriluis Vaz 3.20 2.20 2.20 2 Before Today Jose Luis Flores 7.00 4.60 9 Bajer M Yamil Rosario 2.40 Also ran: 1 - Bernie's Crypt , 4 - Goodlooking Guy , 3 - Crypto's Dream , 5 - My Boy Anthony __________________ velocititian

03-14-2006, 05:33 AM	#70
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	Top 3 Total Energy This one was easier for me to grasp from RichieP's thread demo race Top 3 Early with Total Energy dominate this time in the trifecta 10 New Opportunity Deshawn L. Parker 17.20 7.80 3.80 6 Jersey Monster Oswald M. Pereira 3.60 3.00 3 May Boy Benjamin Marcial 3.80 Last edited by admin; 03-14-2006 at 05:38 AM.