Workout Form Patterns - Documentation - Page 2 - Pace and Cap

Segwin · 11-26-2013, 11:29 AM

Saw a workout today with the abbreviation !SAR. Anyone know what this means?

Appy · 11-26-2013, 10:07 PM

Did that workout occur during the Saratoga meet?

Segwin · 11-27-2013, 06:17 AM

No Appy, it was from PRX Nov 26, Race 2

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Ted Craven · 11-27-2013, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Segwin

Saw a workout today with the abbreviation !SAR. Anyone know what this means?

Terry,

SAR is just a renaming of HWL2, which was introduced in that last 1 or 2 updates. I also updated the Workout Pattern Abbreviations above. SAR is in honour of Dr Sartin who suggested a similar pattern long ago (in Pace Makes the Race) as one indicating very good conditioning in the prep for today's race. Study the number, frequency and regular intervals of the works since that last race.

Ted

Segwin · 11-27-2013, 09:08 AM

Thank you Sir.

Bill V. · 11-27-2013, 10:02 AM

Ted changed the HW2 to SAR as requested by me in Dr Sartins honor
The old HW2! seemed to fit what Doc recommended in Pace Makes The Race
original version - pg. 138 - The Numbers Game

What Howard recommends from Pace Makes The Race is a workout
of about 55 seconds per furlong ( 12 seconds ) and spaced 8 days apart
He writes about a work out that can be too fast too soon.
How a velocity faster than 55 FPS has the same negative effect as a horse
that faces a too fast second call.

His basic rule is 12 seconds per furlong spaced 8 days apart. as an ideal work out pace.

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Bill V. · 11-27-2013, 10:20 AM

Terry

Just as a side the horse runs the race, I do see that the trainer E Allard
has not had a 7 furlong winner at Parx in 2013

The trainer of the winner of this race is C. Landicini
who with today's win has 5 wins with horses going 7 furlongs .

Bill

Segwin · 11-27-2013, 10:44 AM

Thanks very much Bill - great information.

With regards to the horse her last race was 159 days but I was giving the horse a second glance due to the good works. I decided against it because of the long layoff and that she was moving up in class where she doesn't belong. I think she ran 6th.

Ted Craven · 11-27-2013, 06:17 PM

Note: further discussion on this PRX Nov 26 Race 2 (not related to Workouts, but to paceline selection using Adjusted Speed Ratings) continues here: http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9520

Ted

11-26-2013, 11:29 AM	#11
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	Saw a workout today with the abbreviation !SAR. Anyone know what this means? __________________ Terry

11-26-2013, 10:07 PM	#12
Appy Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Flint Hills in Kansas, formerly from Montana Posts: 334	Did that workout occur during the Saratoga meet? __________________ Serious fun. www.cappersoverlay.com

11-27-2013, 06:17 AM	#13
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	Workout Form Patterns - Documentation No Appy, it was from PRX Nov 26, Race 2 __________________ Terry Last edited by Ted Craven; 11-27-2013 at 06:14 PM.

11-27-2013, 09:08 AM	#15
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	Thank you Sir. __________________ Terry

11-27-2013, 10:02 AM	#16
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Sar Ted changed the HW2 to SAR as requested by me in Dr Sartins honor The old HW2! seemed to fit what Doc recommended in Pace Makes The Race original version - pg. 138 - The Numbers Game What Howard recommends from Pace Makes The Race is a workout of about 55 seconds per furlong ( 12 seconds ) and spaced 8 days apart He writes about a work out that can be too fast too soon. How a velocity faster than 55 FPS has the same negative effect as a horse that faces a too fast second call. His basic rule is 12 seconds per furlong spaced 8 days apart. as an ideal work out pace.

11-27-2013, 10:20 AM	#17
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Work out Patterns Terry Just as a side the horse runs the race, I do see that the trainer E Allard has not had a 7 furlong winner at Parx in 2013 The trainer of the winner of this race is C. Landicini who with today's win has 5 wins with horses going 7 furlongs . Bill

11-27-2013, 10:44 AM	#18
Segwin Grade 1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 624	Thanks very much Bill - great information. With regards to the horse her last race was 159 days but I was giving the horse a second glance due to the good works. I decided against it because of the long layoff and that she was moving up in class where she doesn't belong. I think she ran 6th. __________________ Terry

11-27-2013, 06:17 PM	#19
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,853	Note: further discussion on this PRX Nov 26 Race 2 (not related to Workouts, but to paceline selection using Adjusted Speed Ratings) continues here: http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9520 Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™

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