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06-16-2013, 08:53 PM | #21 | |
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1 - Any horse without a race in the last 90 days is a NON CONTENDER. 2 - I only use a line if it occurred in the last 90 days, otherwise the horse is a NON CONTENDER. The database information I gave you in my above post is the reason for these rules/guidelines. Like the statistic I noted on ML 20/1 or higher, horses that have not run in the last 90 days or horses without a good comparable line in the last 90 days also fit into the same scenario. It's not the "needle" I'm looking for, it's the haystack! There are many, many terrific prices without "going fishing" for them. As far as the favorite that has not run in the last 90 days is concerned, yes, I would eliminate the horse as a non contender as far as I am concerned, however, I will still look at the horse AND at the rest of the field. If I cannot find a horse "I believe" can win the race, I will pass the race. This is true in every race I look at. I will always look at the favorite and determine if I can beat it or not. I will look at what is "right" with it and I will look at what is "wrong" with it. In order for me to bet against the favorite, I have to believe I can beat it. Since I never bet on a favorite, I am either confident I can beat it and bet against it or I pass the race.
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06-16-2013, 10:04 PM | #22 |
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Hi FTL. First up I want to say that I did read a post to someone else a while back where you stated your database contains over 5 mil horses. Once I got my jaw back in place I said well, I'm gonna make a separate category for FTL posts. One where I pay special attention to whats being said. That and I do have a curiosity to conditions and I want to push myself to learn everything I can about it. With that said can I ask you a couple of questions?
1- Can I myself automatically cross off 20-1 and above ML odds and make them non contenders? Again I am trying not to leave any stones unturned or dismiss horses so quickly even though the answer may be obvious. 2- I notice you tossed out the #10. The #10 doesn't have any route races. So would the same apply to the #4 horse? His last 10 races are dominated by sprints. He has a very good recent record. But are these lines comparable in the way Doctor Sartin intended them to be? |
06-16-2013, 10:23 PM | #23 | |
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So in answer to your first question, yes. I understand what you are saying about leaving no stone unturned. If I could put my hands on it right now, I just don't remember where I saw it, DOC cautioned about putting non contenders "in". They change your readouts and could cause you to forget that they were really non contenders. I don't know about the #4 horse. I didn't look at it, but I'll try to let "DOC" answer your second question. This is from the Paceline Manual. There is more to it, but this is the pertinent part. This was on page 17 of the manual.
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06-17-2013, 01:26 AM | #24 | |
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One is an "SO" (Starter Optional Claiming) and the other is an "OC" (Allowance Optional Claiming), generally referred to as just an "optional claimer", just so you can compare them. Something to keep in mind is, not all tracks write the same types of races. Some tracks write "SO" others don't. If you read these conditions, you will find that they are very similar, with the difference being "class level". The "OC" (optional claimer) is written for better quality horses, while "SO" (Starter Optional Claimers) are for lesser quality horses. Here are the conditions. As for the other part of you inquiry; "ST" means Stake Race "s" lower case "s" is a state bred designation. It is for horses bred in the state where the track is located. "85" is the purse value of the race. In this case $85,000.
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06-17-2013, 09:41 AM | #25 |
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Beautiful thanks again FTL. Time to go to work on all of your suggestions so if you don't see me the next 2 to 3 weeks thats where I am. Take care everyone.
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06-17-2013, 09:50 AM | #26 |
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