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Pace Makes the Race / TPR Discussion, Examples, Lessons from Total Pace Ratings (TPR) aka 'Phase I' from the book 'Pace Makes the Race' |
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02-21-2021, 01:50 PM | #1 |
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Laurel Race 8 Feburary 21
I was thinking about Bill V and thought he might want to keep this topic alive so decided to put up a race.It's a very competitive field, sorry not good with doing caputures so doing it by hand. I am using Synergism 3 the pars are over 10 years old but still seems to do the job
4 L2 88 89 177 5 L1 86 91 177 6 L1 90 86 176 7 L3 88 87 175 2 L2 92 82 174 1 L1 82 89 171 I will play 4 & 5 to win and box 4-5-7 Jeff |
02-21-2021, 05:51 PM | #2 |
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Well the 4 ran 2nd at 2-1, if you would have boxed the top three in a exacta you would have hit it for 95.00 as the 6 won at 8-1
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02-21-2021, 06:26 PM | #3 |
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Jeff, funny, I was thinking about Bill too this weekend!
FWIW, here's that race in RDSS, out of the box (automatic) - Ted
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02-22-2021, 08:48 AM | #4 |
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Hi Ted
Thanks Actually when I first did the race I used the Penn line which did put the horse on top and it came out 6-4 which would have hit the 95.00 exacta on top plus the 8 to 1 shot. But for some reason did not trust that line and instead used it last line which was at Laurel at 5.5 furlongs which I usually dont like to use on 6 furlong races.I did end up saving playing a 4-6 box as I keyed the 4. Jeff |
02-22-2021, 08:51 AM | #5 |
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When I used RDSS in the past I only used TPR for my handicapping and was able to double my bank working with Bill V. The numbers are very good in the program
Jeff |
02-22-2021, 09:02 AM | #6 |
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I know this is after the fact but here is the original way I had it setup
using Number 6 Penn line 6 L2 90 88 178 4 L2 88 89 177 5 L1 86 91 177 7 L3 88 87 175 2 L2 92 82 174 1 L1 82 89 171 That's what I get for second guessing myself and the program Jeff |
02-22-2021, 10:11 AM | #7 |
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Congratulations on that nice exacta hit. The TPR concept is still valid for sure - sometimes it's all you need. Yes, Bill V was a great teacher, so patient and invested in helping people if they wanted to do the work. (I think I'll leave his hat on the P&C masthead for a little while longer ...).
Good luck Jeff! Ted
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02-22-2021, 04:12 PM | #8 |
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Thanks Ted good luck to you as well.
Not sure what the RX line score in RDSS is but it nailed the Tri and Super if you would have boxed them Tri 370.00 Super 675.00 Great job Your so right about Bill V, great friend as well. Jeff |
02-24-2021, 06:18 AM | #9 |
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Will you be doing any more of these races.
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02-24-2021, 08:53 AM | #10 |
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Do you mean Shoeless in Synergism, or me in RDSS?
I'm not really a specialist - or proponent - of just TPR figures alone. The full spectrum Rx lines including BLBL/VDC and the ProfitLine and Prime Power ratings are superior IMO. My approach is closer to the '4 Factor Method' enhanced by Rx3 and live tote analysis, along with a touch of (primitive) Matchup analysis as required. Sometimes though, the (RDSS adjusted) TPR figs - as in this race - give you a good enough edge over the public. Ted
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