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Old 05-30-2017, 03:22 PM   #21
Brian Chamberlain
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Mitch, I sure appreciate your detailed posts on using RDSS2. Thanks.
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Old 05-30-2017, 08:34 PM   #22
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Thanks Brian.

For clarity and those that may be confused. When I talk about modeling the factors in RDSS, I'm talking about the specific factors that appear on each screen and there are many. Its like shopping for a new car and getting the most bang for your buck. What is the performance record of this car or in other words what is the performance record of this factor. There is good stuff on several screens and there is well, I wonder why its even there stuff?

Once you have this information you can get a piece of the puzzle here another piece from another screen and soon you'll have a picture of the puzzle at hand. Otherwise you can either be overwhelmed with all this data or be able to zero in on the real important stuff.

All this is different than say a track profile which is track specific and where your attempting to determine what it takes to win at that track. Such as % Med by distance and surface or the beaten lengths at the second call. A Brohammer model or a track profile are more advanced concepts.

Learn to crawl than you can walk or run. Is FW more important than TT ? When you don't understand something such as % Med. than read up on it in past Follow Up's to understand its concepts and how to employ it. Don't get confused by factors such as FW & TT verses concepts such as % Med or the counter energy horse etc. You'll need to know concepts also but first narrow down to key factors first.
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:38 PM   #23
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Thanks again. I was a Sartin client through 2002 (Val4)--glad I found Ted a couple of years ago, but I'm strictly a hobbyist. My other hobby is finding growth stocks using Investors Business Daily using far fewer factors than RDSS2. 😀
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:50 AM   #24
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Even if your a hobbyist the idea is to have a profitable hobby. Get something back even if pleasure. There is no pleasure in losing.

Frankly I tried IBD and was unsuccessful. My lesson learned was no diversity. I now own some mutual funds and therefore don't worry about any one stock taking a hit. There are so many ways through accountings nowadays that one can't tell what a company is worth including trained accountants. An investor can't compete with inside knowledge etc. I guess one can luck up on the next Google etc. but it never was me. Their game ,at least in racing there are checks and balances to keep the game honest. I don't consider jailing a Martha Stewart every once in a while real policing.

On the other hand in horse racing unlike a casino where games with fixed percentages to overcome that can't be beat on any consistent basis, horseracing can. In racing you can pit your knowledge against another and take their money. Now granted it isn't easy and most fail. However they fail because they lack knowledge and discipline.

Any hobby can cost considerable money whether its golf ,fishing etc. If your going to have a hobby do all you can to learn it in depth. Your at the right place with RDSS to become successful however it still takes discipline,control, and money management to succeed but the public makes mistakes everyday. RDSS is just a part or a vehicle to get you there. Some you can give them a new car and they'll wreck it.

Wishing you the best,
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Old 05-31-2017, 09:56 AM   #25
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I agree, except IBD's new software is fantastic. Called Marketsmith, it saves hours of time. I know this is horse racing site, so I won't say too much on IBD except it is not about diversification, it is about finding fundamentally sound stocks, poised for big growth. The idea to invest in just a few stocks and ride the wave up. It is 70% fundamentals/30% charts which takes a skill similar to Sartin Methodology. I did well enough with IBD to get licensed to give investment advice to the public about 14 years ago, still going well.
Back to Sartin, I sure appreciate Ted's programming RDSS 2.1 to help make sense of all the factors involved. With too many variables--too much chaos--it is unlikely many are having sustained success, with some notable exceptions. Makes me appreciate Mark Cramer more--I loved his "special situation" work in the past but I note it was Mark Cramer who reviewed Sartin and showed a flat bet profit with little extra analysis.
So yes I intend RDSS to be a profitable hobby. IBD is my profession.
Keep up the educational posts, very useful to me and others.
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