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Old 10-23-2008, 12:47 PM   #1
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Lost in dilution

We constantly hear, in our sports sections, the bemoaning of the rapid expansion of the NHL and the dilution of the talent pool. The same thing is now becoming a factor in the Breeder's Cup, particularly with the WIN and you're in idea. The concept of the best coming up against the best is beginning to get lost in the shuffle and having it over two days is just outright greed (seems to be the consensus I hear in the press room).

It is a positive that the track surface was repaired and seem to reflect the early nature that Anita always was. Having the races in a warm weather climate is really a knock against the European horses as many come over already sporting a winter coat. I cam recall an Arc winner was in distress in the heat and humidity of Florida one year after his race there all lathered up

People also don't realize what a bum deal the simulcast outlets receive in the betting pools
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:40 AM   #2
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Maybe so

Good points Tim
However outside of Hambletonian day Only two days each year the Meadowlands needs to open two gates
The usual west end gate and on Breeders cup day and Kentucky derby day
They also open front main entrance gate
Its still a mad dash to find seats
and the pay to sit rooms are long sold out

They have to like that at the Meadowlands
hots dogs soda coffee and popcorn and oh yes parking
rip offs if there is something going on at the stadium

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Old 10-24-2008, 11:43 AM   #3
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Ego races

One of my wagering mentors, a real estate sales manager whom I met at
the harness races, gave me a real good object lesson as regards
parimutuels that has stuck with me these many years since his passing.
In essence: find a race that pays you to wager on it, not one you can
brag about because it had made the front pages of the sports section.
He pointed out, rationally, that most people need to stroke their ego
by touting how they won the Kentucky Derby or, a germane topic for
this week, a Breeder's Cup race. He went on to rationally state: THOSE
races have so many good, well-meant horses that to objectively make
money in the long term is a very difficult task AND you are up against
some of the strongest competition out there :i.e. the Sheet palyers,
Thorograph, etc.

This fellow was the one who pointed me to the smaller markets where
you are competing against bored housewives, retired folks etc., who
don't have the tools to effectively figure out the races. UNLESS you
find a big advanatge in these bigger pools (I think I have bet the
Breeder's Cup about four times with horses that were OVERLAYS relative
to how much of an advantage they had over their fields like
Precisionist, Manila, Quija Board and a few junvenile winners), it is
best to enjoy them for what they were designed to do: select champions
from the best of the best.

Good luck as I will be looking at Woodbine, Fort Erie and Hastings
this weekend.
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:23 PM   #4
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win bets

Me too
I will be looking at Philly Park
Some of my biggest wins have been at Philly on the big race days

Good Skill to the BC wager people

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Old 10-24-2008, 01:14 PM   #5
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Me too
I will be looking at Philly Park
Some of my biggest wins have been at Philly on the big race days
I wished I got Philly all the time: I LOVE THE PLACE particularly in the dead of WINTER.....

I can only bet it Monday and Tuesday
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:26 PM   #6
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Good Skill to the BC wager people

Bill
Thanks bud!
After day 1 in the TVG National Breeder's Cup contest I'm in sole 7th place just 10 bucks out of the lead. Knocking at that door to get to Vegas.



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Old 10-24-2008, 10:20 PM   #7
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See it Do it

Hi Rich

Focus !!!! place your hands in front of you at eye level
Slowly move your hands away from each other left and right
Focus on your hands as you move them away to the sides
Do this while you look straight ahead.
focus on your hands till you can see them anymore as
they move out of your vision
at this point think or say your chant
(I say the lords prayer ) and place your fist
at the back off your head and push it against the back of you head

Focus Rich See It believe It

The best skill is in you

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Old 10-25-2008, 12:52 AM   #8
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WOO HOO!

Go get 'em, Richie!
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