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09-29-2008, 04:57 PM | #1 |
AlwNW3X
Join Date: Mar 2008
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spot playing while waiting
Hi everyone,
First off cant wait for the cd. Second i want to generate a little fun icome, to see if i can actually profit from some of the spot plays. I am at a severe disadvantge without having the book but i do have this site. My plan is to spot play early type horses only. I have read all the examples but iam still hitting a wall please help guid my guys. ( here is what i do) 1. running styles circle earlies mark there first call, if there is no earlies and hes proven he can win i bet....... i dont match him up vs the other horses is this correct since he is a lone earlie?? 2. i do the exact same for a dominate early... If anyone can give specific advice how the implement the early spot play please input. thanks in advance punch |
09-30-2008, 01:33 PM | #2 |
The egg man
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlsbad, California
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Spot
Hello Punch
ahead of me at the loading dock I'm not very high on spot plays My problem with them is while i'm looking for them I forget to do the race the way I know works well for me and I often get disciurage waiting around for them then losing them I think you should do about 20 tries on paper see what kind of mutual your likely to be getting The problem I see with what your looking to do is this Basicly your looking at an early horse your not looking at the whole match up and the # 1 question we need to know about early horses Can It go Wire To wire in todays match up To do this correctly you need to see if the othet horses have the ability to run it down in the third fraction I kind of think you may be looking at what almost everybody can see in the Past performances Who is going to get the early lead These horses i think get over bet The complete match up process gets you the better prices Thanks Bill |
10-01-2008, 10:28 AM | #3 |
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Hi Punch
I work a bunch of races in the same fashion and then look for patterns or things to stand out indicating a bet. I grab each horses fastest pace of race competitive finish from wherever that is in the pp's. I assign a running style to the horse. Then I look at all the lines together and wait for something to hit my eye. Now you can use software generated readouts or visual at this point (though we only deal with non software here in Hat Check). Key is to work races in the same way to get you in a groove where things can show themself to you. Here are screenshots of the first 3 races(before scratches) today at Belmont. These are the pictures I set up for me to look at quietly. Then it is a matter of scratches,finding something that looks good,price and a final look at the horse you are betting.
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10-01-2008, 11:39 AM | #4 |
Match Up Apprentice
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Lady Bayr
Line 8 - 22 - 44.6 Nothing else near this in her PP 8th by 13, 8 by 11, but only gets beat a nose Too much Early probably help her Line 8 not to be trusted, i reckon
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10-01-2008, 12:09 PM | #5 | |
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Very nice points. Putting it all together, PowerLines,PowerMoves,Running Styles, Stacking, Early or OTE, not running to previous fractions, fastest pace last race, etc., T-H-E-N , comparing it to his other lines , to come to a decision about the horse AND the race : To find the kind of horse you are looking for : Early or Other-Than-Early Is the horse a contender T-O-D-A-Y ? VoodooFan |
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10-02-2008, 05:27 AM | #6 |
Match Up Apprentice
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Bel race 2
2 and 3 were scratched, so you ask yourself a question Can 1a go wire to wire? Answer = Yes
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10-02-2008, 06:26 AM | #7 |
Match Up Apprentice
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Here's another from other day at Philly
You had to forgive the #2 horses last two efforts to get it, but as an example of what to look for it will suffice Question: From the Pacelines selected can the #2 go wire to wire?? Answer = Yes
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10-02-2008, 06:15 PM | #8 | |
The egg man
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With out using software how do you tell if the 2 can or can not go wire to wire?? If you can help me out Thanks Bill |
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10-02-2008, 07:35 PM | #9 | |
Match Up Apprentice
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Hi Bill
We use this Part of Jim "The Hat" Bradshaws Five Step Approach Quote:
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