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punch18 12-07-2008 08:52 PM

early//other than early help
 
Hi boys,

my question is when you deciede early can win / should win do you still look at the ote horses or do you throw out the hole side right away period end of story??

1 e 22.1 44.4 is dominate early

but
5 p 21.4 45 positions 4 4 2 1
6 p 21.4 44.3 positions 4 1 1 1
do you still go with the early???

Other part would be if they finished second (otes) discard cause they cant win?
I ve been having luck throwing the whole side out right away.
1 running styles then look at earlies if they are canceling each other out i use the pace and match the others. Hopefulyl this is correct
thanks in advance
punch

RichieP 12-15-2008 11:08 AM

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Here you go Punch. This race ran yesterday at Philly.

You will WIN this race because you are good at recognizing FAST early runners.

RichieP 12-15-2008 11:09 AM

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:) con't

RichieP 12-15-2008 11:09 AM

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rest of the field.

RichieP 12-15-2008 11:14 AM

The WINNER of this race will pay you 11/1.

I KNOW you guys will get him and sh** there is nothing wrong or 2nd class by getting him with TWO picks :)

Jim NEVER insisted or tried to force the "one horse wager" on anyone including all his students. Bill will tell you this first hand when he went to Tulsa and hung out with Hat :)

Now go WIN the race. I will put up the result chart tomorrow night.

punch18 12-15-2008 11:10 PM

I actually bet that race. It looked like a nice dom early .
I like betting strong early horses, But i lose alot of them also
punch

RichieP 12-16-2008 07:39 PM

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Here is the result chart of the Philly race.

Run your 5 step approach using the #10 last line as proj pace. Look at his race 2 back. He ran FASTER 1c-2c than last race.

Now match your horses and you should have ONE other horse who can run against it. Also brings in the tandem stuff doesn't it??

Now look at the result chart.
:)

shoeless 12-16-2008 10:39 PM

Richie,I had the winner as well and the exacta I went off his last race which still made him coming out of the fastest race and lone early.Your right the 2nd place horse which came out of that tandem with the 10 ran 2nd for a 134.00 exacta.I couldnt believe he went off 11-1 and his last race only lost by a nk going 6.5 fur and today going 6.Jeff

shoeless 12-17-2008 07:43 PM

Richie,After hitting this race I started thinking when you first started doing the match up you told me to concentrate just on lone early horses.I was doing pretty well but I got impatient waiting for them to come up and started throwing my money away on crap races.Then I started e mailing with Emillio and he got me back on track waiting for these type of horses to appear.I hope I have learned my lesson.Jeff


** This is excellent Jeff and I can't thank Emilio,CharlieD,Mikesal etc for really helping folks coming onboard to grab a bit of Jim's Matchup concepts. Stay focused and be patient big bro. Merry Christmas!
Richie***


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