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03-30-2008, 10:36 AM | #1 |
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Florida Derby 2008 Contenders
Could Froggy or Jim G or Richie P or Admin please show me how you would narrow the field for the Florida Derby this year down to six (6) contenders? To me, this was the toughest race of the year and I don't see how you could have thrown out anybody as not being a viable contender. I put this race through Phase III, but I had too many contenders, as usual.
Also, Ted, I tried my old Phase III Program and tried to export to Phase III. For some reason, it wouldn't take the three (3) call races. I had to hand enter the races. It was a lot of trouble, but I did it. One more question: Why do we not use Factor WX and FW? I know these are old and Dr. Sartin quit using them a long time ago, but can anybody tell me why? or -- are they incorporated in the RDSS? I also found a copy of Q Scan for Thoroughbreds. Is there any info in the library on Q Scan? Thanks Guys, you're the best. Your Friend, Stormbringer |
03-30-2008, 10:46 AM | #2 |
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Check out Jim's (Jms62) pre race post in selections area yesterday. He had 3 contenders with a HUGE gap separating themselves from the field. From those 3 came the winner and place horse for a VERY nice exacta score. He had the race nailed down so maybe he could chime in man.
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03-30-2008, 11:46 AM | #3 |
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Storm,
RDSS and most of the later Sartin software does use FW. Look in the Primary Screen. Don't know what WX is but sounds suspiciously like a milkshake of FW and FX. There's only so many ways to slice and dice 3 fractions of velocity... Jim, congrats on a great FL Derby call! All lines within the last 3, mostly the last line. Ted
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03-30-2008, 01:50 PM | #4 |
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Florida Derby
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Hi Storm This is how I do any race I use Val 4 mode. I look for the best speed rating in the last 3 or maybe 4 races on the adjusted screen using lines with less than 7.5 beaten lengths I use the base of an 80 speed rating and Race Class and the APV CR ratings to judge the power of a horse. I start with the red dot apv cr horse. In the Florida derby #10 no line the 87 3 back at Saratoga 7.0 is niced but what have you done lately ?? Red dot #12 Line 1 93 SR 95 RC Yellow dot apv #2 Line 1 90 SR 102 RC Green Dot APV CR Now the rest # 1 Line 1 91 SR 102 RC # 3 No line So far I have all over 90 SR and this horse is an 83 at best as a Maiden #4 Foreign Horse ??? #5 No Line same story as # 3 but even slower speed ratings # 6 Line 2 86 SR 98 Race class so so APV CR # 7 No Line best is 83 SR but only a 90 RC very low APV CR #8 Line 2 86 SR 102 RC APV CR ok #9 Line 2 87 SR 102 RC APV CR ok #11 Last line 90 SR 98 RC poor APV CR but its the last line That's everyone Now here are the SR CR APV CR contenders then I will show how I get down to only 5 horses |
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03-30-2008, 01:57 PM | #6 |
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Hi Storm
On the primary line score screen I take out the bottom rated horses or easier to show the horses with the highest line score the smaller box screen shot is the Primary line score and highest number is the worse so I will take out the 9 with a 37 and the 8 with a 34 I will leave in the 6 because its in the to 5 Total energy |
03-30-2008, 01:59 PM | #7 |
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Now I have 5 horses on BLBL The 12 is right up there Hope that I made sense GS Bill |
03-30-2008, 02:11 PM | #8 | |
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Jms that was a very nice exacta your readouts pointed to yesterday. I saw it,wanted to reply but honey-do's got in the way. Hope you got a nice piece of the payoffs there. |
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03-30-2008, 02:47 PM | #10 |
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Much Thanks
Dear Guys- Thanks so much for all your help. I will go through your examples and it will help me greatly. It seems to me that every body is using RDSS more and more, but I keep seeing these old programs pop up.
To me, I need to use RDSS and not the old program. I like the ease of RDSS. I can actually see and learn where you get the winners from, as with Jim and Admin's example. An area should be made to teach people how to narrow races down. You guys have no problems, some people like me... haver more trouble narrowing down the entrants. I'm not looking for a short cut because as you know, horse racing is work and if you don't work at horseracing, you're not going to get anything out of it. I spent the last week reading a pamphlet from the library that was very old on Factor Analysis. It had very old material in it. I learned a few things but it took a great deal of time for me to hand enter all of the races at Florida into Phase III. It is a great program, but I'm going back to RDSS now. Ya'll make things look too easy and it's really not. I definitely think that the admin should set up an area and you guys show more of how you narrow down fields and get winners, like maybe a beginners area or something like that, don't know, but something. Again, thanks so much. I've printed all of your replies out and will re-handicap the race. Yours, Stornbringer |
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