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Old 02-12-2007, 09:47 AM   #21
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2nd Key - Positioning

We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race

the winner is #5 - $23.60
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:49 AM   #22
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2nd Key - Positioning

We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race


the winner is the #2 - $9.60
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:52 AM   #23
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2nd Key - Positioning

We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race

The winner is the #6 - $ 5.20
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:55 AM   #24
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2nd Key - Positioning

We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race

the winner is the #5 - $12.40
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Old 02-12-2007, 09:59 AM   #25
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:09 AM   #26
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2nd Key - Positioning

I spent a LOT of writing on the beaten lenghts because I wanted to make sure I covered the only real areas where they come into play in Jim Bradshaw's matchup.

The POSITIONING part is what is messing a lot of folks up and to be HONEST it did to ME also at the start.

What Jim did with me was basically what I have just done. Produce a SERIES of races rapid fire where the picture when LOOKED AT CLOSELY tells the whole story ok?

POSITIONING is actually very SIMPLE. Just

1) RELAX
2) LOOK at what the pictures show
3) RELAX
4) LOOK at what the pictures show

THERE it is man.

Jim Bradshaw's POSITIONING

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POSITION - A place or location. The right or appropriate place.
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Old 02-12-2007, 10:52 AM   #27
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Shoeless and Jon

that screenshot from the 1st key was a picture of a horse's position and beaten lenghts at the FIRST call

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Old 02-12-2007, 12:25 PM   #28
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Richie:

With respect to the Delta Downs race 7 on 2-07, are you saying that the race is over at the first call because the presser Rufus, 2nd, 1.5L off a 48, is so far ahead of Stratford on Avon, 2nd 1L off a 49.8, EVEN THOUGH the final time adjusts to TWO seconds faster (141.6 vs 143.6 for Rufus)? That is a big WOW. I worked this race last week and I was content in a two horse betting situation to get it down to both of these pressers, but my first impression was that the 2 sec better time made Stratford on Avon a better play.

Nice lesson. ALL RICHIE, ALL THE TIME!

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Old 02-12-2007, 02:47 PM   #29
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Delta 02-07, 7th

Richie:

I worked the 7th after you posted the PPs. I came down to the 2 contenders you show but thought Stratford the better of the two if I had to pick just one. Of course I am still a two horse bettor, so the prize would have been mine.

So what I gather from today's post is that the Delta 7th race was really OVER at the FIRST call. Rufus, a presser was 1.5L off a 48 1st call and Stratford, another presser was 1L off a 49.8 1st call in an 8.5f race where the projected mile time was 141.40, compared to Rufus' final time of 143.20. That is a really big WOW that puts an entirely new light on long held "facts"

Thanks for the insight.

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So what I gather from today's post is that the Delta 7th race was really OVER at the FIRST call. Rufus, a presser was 1.5L off a 48 1st call and Stratford, another presser was 1L off a 49.8 1st call in an 8.5f race where the projected mile time was 141.40, compared to Rufus' final time of 143.20. That is a really big WOW that puts an entirely new light on long held "facts"

Thanks for the insight.

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You are getting it amigo. I believe the word final time has NOT been used at ALL in anything we have said or done yet.

Now take it a step further and "back up" your positional/pace of race assesment to INCLUDE the FIRST FRACTION (somethiing which fwiw NOBODY does in ROUTES Bill) ok? NOW how do things look to YOU?

"We are going to bet the horse closest to the lead positionally factoring in pace of race" - The Hat

Shedding new light on long held "facts" - Jim Bradshaw's Matchup

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