A Page for Doctor Howard Sartin Ph D - Pace and Cap

Bill V. · 11-03-2008, 01:57 PM

Hello Pace and Cap

Once again I ask you for help
I am trying to create a wikipedia pagefor Doc
Wiki_Dr_Howard_Sartin

The thing is I am having trouble . The page is from my heart
I truly want to do the best I can for Howard Sartin
But Wiki is calling for the page to be deleted
I am stuck because I need
well here is what they are saying

Looks like the bylaws of Wikipedia say you can't just write
about someone without authentic links

I have a few

Pace makes the race
The Hat
Trackmaster
Ted Craven
But I don't know the proper way to creat them
anyway I really want to create this page for Howard
I am asking you, my friends here to help me if you can
anything you can do would be so appreciated by me and many of
you to do this in honor of The Doc and The Sartin Methodology .
If your a registered member of Wikipedia and you know how to edit the page
Please do it...
If you have anything to add to the page and you would
rather I edited it let me know. Even just some ideas
would spark me
Please help
Thank you all

GS
Bill

Houndog · 11-03-2008, 02:18 PM

Bill, don't know if this helps. Here are some links I found using a Google search.

http://www.horseracingtips.biz/horse...-handicap.html

http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Pace-Ha.../dp/0964849372

http://books.google.com/books?id=WLP...sult#PPA143,M1

http://books.google.com/books?id=_bq...sult#PPA163,M1

Houndog · 11-03-2008, 02:25 PM

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23118427/

http://www.amazon.com/Pace-Makes-Rac.../dp/096307430X

http://www.knowledgecenter.unr.edu/s...ss/nc1216.html

Bill V. · 11-03-2008, 02:45 PM

Thank You so much

Now I need to edit them in and I don't know how to do that
But Its a great start
Lets see it happen
We can do it guys

Bill

RichieP · 11-03-2008, 04:24 PM

Hi Bill
GREAT idea you have!!!!!!

http://home.att.net/~jimthehat/files/work.html
http://home.att.net/~jimthehat/files/hat.html

Turbulator · 11-03-2008, 05:16 PM

Bill,

What you're attempting to do is not an easy undertaking. Citing sources and properly formatting them, as well as editing and updating the page is the equivalent of writing a college level research paper--or any such sort of research project.

I took a look at these pages on sourcing, copy editing, and consensus, and although I agree this should probably be done, I also believe it isn't going to happen overnight.

It's going to take a lot of work and fine tuning. Just understanding the proper way of doing things looks daunting.

This is one reason Wikipedia has the respect it deserves--verifiable sources must be cited.

I started looking into it and it gave me a headache just thinking about it.

I would be more than happy to contribute to some of the editing, but sourcing and all that goes with it makes my head spin, and I've got a few too many things on my plate right now. There is quite a bit to be learned to make this work (at least for me). This is a real project.

That doesn't mean you should give up though. I'm just pointing out a few of the hurdles.

Steve

Ted Craven · 11-03-2008, 05:35 PM

Bill,

Don't know if this is the PMTR link you were referring to above, but it gets a hit almost daily (or more) on various search engines, so that should be a credible source. It's an extract from the book Pace Makes the Race, the Psychology of Winning chapter by Sartin:

http://www.SartinMethodology.com/pub...inningPMTR.pdf

I don't know much about the process of Wikipedia attributions, but I'll sure take a look.

Ted

Ted Craven · 11-03-2008, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbulator

I took a look at these pages on sourcing,

Steve

Steve, can you check the above link - seems dead...

Note: fixed the above link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Ted

Turbulator · 11-03-2008, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Craven

Steve, can you check the above link - seems dead...

Ted

Try this link and click on "sourcing."

Bill V. · 11-04-2008, 04:43 AM

I will not give up

"Damn the Torpedoes"

"My only regret is that I have but one life to give to my country "

Sugar do do do do do do ah honey honey oops

We can do it Thanks Ted Rich Steve Mike

Steve I really think that I need to show wikipedia something
Yes to do this correctly will take many hours
I am willing to take on the work -like I have so much free time -
What we need is to do something quickly is to keep the page from being deleted anything we can do now is build a foundation
Then we can build up from there

Thanks Bill

11-03-2008, 01:57 PM	#1
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	A Page for Doctor Howard Sartin Ph D Hello Pace and Cap Once again I ask you for help I am trying to create a wikipedia pagefor Doc Wiki_Dr_Howard_Sartin The thing is I am having trouble . The page is from my heart I truly want to do the best I can for Howard Sartin But Wiki is calling for the page to be deleted I am stuck because I need well here is what they are saying Looks like the bylaws of Wikipedia say you can't just write about someone without authentic links I have a few Pace makes the race The Hat Trackmaster Ted Craven But I don't know the proper way to creat them anyway I really want to create this page for Howard I am asking you, my friends here to help me if you can anything you can do would be so appreciated by me and many of you to do this in honor of The Doc and The Sartin Methodology . If your a registered member of Wikipedia and you know how to edit the page Please do it... If you have anything to add to the page and you would rather I edited it let me know. Even just some ideas would spark me Please help Thank you all GS Bill Attached Images

11-03-2008, 02:18 PM	#2
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	Some Links Bill, don't know if this helps. Here are some links I found using a Google search. http://www.horseracingtips.biz/horse...-handicap.html http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Pace-Ha.../dp/0964849372 http://books.google.com/books?id=WLP...sult#PPA143,M1 http://books.google.com/books?id=_bq...sult#PPA163,M1 Last edited by Houndog; 11-03-2008 at 02:22 PM. Reason: adding to post

11-03-2008, 02:25 PM	#3
Houndog Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,258	More Links http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23118427/ http://www.amazon.com/Pace-Makes-Rac.../dp/096307430X http://www.knowledgecenter.unr.edu/s...ss/nc1216.html Last edited by Houndog; 11-03-2008 at 02:35 PM.

11-03-2008, 02:45 PM	#4
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Houndog Thank You so much Now I need to edit them in and I don't know how to do that But Its a great start Lets see it happen We can do it guys Bill

11-03-2008, 05:16 PM	#6
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	Bill, What you're attempting to do is not an easy undertaking. Citing sources and properly formatting them, as well as editing and updating the page is the equivalent of writing a college level research paper--or any such sort of research project. I took a look at these pages on sourcing, copy editing, and consensus, and although I agree this should probably be done, I also believe it isn't going to happen overnight. It's going to take a lot of work and fine tuning. Just understanding the proper way of doing things looks daunting. This is one reason Wikipedia has the respect it deserves--verifiable sources must be cited. I started looking into it and it gave me a headache just thinking about it. I would be more than happy to contribute to some of the editing, but sourcing and all that goes with it makes my head spin, and I've got a few too many things on my plate right now. There is quite a bit to be learned to make this work (at least for me). This is a real project. That doesn't mean you should give up though. I'm just pointing out a few of the hurdles. Steve __________________ Last edited by Ted Craven; 11-03-2008 at 10:12 PM. Reason: fixed a link

11-03-2008, 04:24 PM	#5
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,014	Hi Bill GREAT idea you have!!!!!! http://home.att.net/~jimthehat/files/work.html http://home.att.net/~jimthehat/files/hat.html

11-03-2008, 05:35 PM	#7
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,853	Bill, Don't know if this is the PMTR link you were referring to above, but it gets a hit almost daily (or more) on various search engines, so that should be a credible source. It's an extract from the book Pace Makes the Race, the Psychology of Winning chapter by Sartin: http://www.SartinMethodology.com/pub...inningPMTR.pdf I don't know much about the process of Wikipedia attributions, but I'll sure take a look. Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™ Last edited by Ted Craven; 11-03-2008 at 10:15 PM.

11-04-2008, 04:43 AM	#10
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Thank you I will not give up "Damn the Torpedoes" "My only regret is that I have but one life to give to my country " Sugar do do do do do do ah honey honey oops We can do it Thanks Ted Rich Steve Mike Steve I really think that I need to show wikipedia something Yes to do this correctly will take many hours I am willing to take on the work -like I have so much free time - What we need is to do something quickly is to keep the page from being deleted anything we can do now is build a foundation Then we can build up from there Thanks Bill Last edited by Bill V.; 11-04-2008 at 05:13 AM.

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