pktruckdriver
06-24-2011, 07:31 PM
I am sorry, but since my return I tried very hard to stay in the background and post nothing at all, and when after tireless searching I could not find answers , then I would email Ted and ask him, well that is silly and Ted was gracious enough as always to answer them, but he is too busy doing much more important things to answer my emails, so I will go here and post this, as my excitement mounts for what the future here holds in store for us
RDSS 2.0 and EL 2.0 I believe 1 in the same yet separated too...
I know this is all in Beta testing, but I am also familiar with New Pace and Early/Late , both Dave's product's that I've used when using HSH and I did a few researching runs at Mountaineer/Charlestown and EVD and I either had a very bad start, or was not doing it the right way, because my numbers were nowhere near the numbers like what you guys get over here, like what RichieP did at EVD, and also how well you guys and gal here were working it over, putting it thru it's paces, no pun intended, but lately you stopped posting here in the forum, and yes I know Ted was redo-ing the EL 2.0 to incorporate better numbers to use, well I think they will better numbers because of where they are coming from, and my bet would be the hit rates will definetly increase with better figures being used, and also with better early horse's actually being designated as early horse's, I feel this will help too. ( please note this is not a stab at HSH, no not at all, it is just that over here in RDSS you guys took to this EL 2.0 so well and Ted has done so well incorporating it into his program and then there is the colors again , making it so easy to use and fun again, definitely not a poke at Dave or HSH, okay)
But having Days like this one that RichieP posted...this was awesome results
Here are the results from Thursday night after scratches.
4/28:
r1 - 5 cont - out
r2 - 5 cont - #1 l wins 12.40 #2 l places exacta 113.60
r3 - 4 cont - #2 l wins 23.40 #1 l places exacta 80.80
r4 - 5 cont - #2 l wins 6.80 #1 l places exacta 30.40
r5 - 4 cont - out
r6 - 5 cont - #1 e wins 4.80 2 e places exacta 20.00
r7 - 5 cont - #2 l wins 11.20
r8 - 5 cont - #1 e wins 4.80
r9 - 4 cont - #1 l wins 25.60 #2 e places exacta 330.80
r10- 5 cont - #2 e wins 21.20 #1 e places exacta 40.00
Could you imagine having nights like this on a regular basis, of course we couldn't as we all know this game evens itself out over time, but then... RichieP's opening week of Data was impressive , thanks Richie
Here is what Bill had to say, this too was encouraging to say the least..
Lets be open to this new idea. So far the 2 Es and 2Ls per race show 73% wins; 51% exactas and 25% trifectas. I have only done some of the ROI stuff but the exactas and tri's are positive and I think that 10c supers with the all button in position 4 will be too.
Bill
Then even after all this was done we have Dave doing this....The Change of Original Methodology ,and was post 21 and 22 of this thread htp://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7410&page=3
I felt he read alot of what you guys did hear and listened to you, he is good at that, something I am working on still, but tweaking things to work better is what makes this so much more , worth waiting for ,
To me this could only lead to better data numbers when Ted recalculates EL 2.0 using better and improved numbers, and I want to be a part of this and feel it will be a great addition to RDSS 2.0., but never a stand alone part , but 1 that will compliment each other perfectly, as TE and the BL/BL are pretty powerful now, as well as other assets of the program too.
My questions are this
1. Could we still get someone to post a track on the weekends for us to look at, as I noticed this is suppose to work every where, yet I have only seen reference to these tracks so far
KEE/TAM/WO/EVD/BEL/CD/SA,
But I could have missed them, but I would be interested in Monmouth and Calder too, please.
2. Is there anyone who could use any help with this BETA testing of EL 2.0, if so please let me know what I can do to help, as I have read the forum here a few times and really am impressed with the work done so far, extremely so (please note the following thou, I can not use an Excell or Open Office spreadsheet to well, nor could I figure the NewPace figures by hand either, I could only use the numbers that were generated by HSH or RDSS, )
3. Is there a time frame of when we could start using EL 2.0 in the future, like maybe in time for SAR or Del Mar, or maybe by Breeders Cup time, as I am once again fascinated by how this may work out, yet I am also well aware of how much work still needs to be done too, testing takes time and work.
Again Thank all of you for the hard work and dedication to this and everything here on RDSS, I hope 1 day to be able to help also, but for now I am like a kid in a Candy store waiting very impatiently...
Patrick
RDSS 2.0 and EL 2.0 I believe 1 in the same yet separated too...
I know this is all in Beta testing, but I am also familiar with New Pace and Early/Late , both Dave's product's that I've used when using HSH and I did a few researching runs at Mountaineer/Charlestown and EVD and I either had a very bad start, or was not doing it the right way, because my numbers were nowhere near the numbers like what you guys get over here, like what RichieP did at EVD, and also how well you guys and gal here were working it over, putting it thru it's paces, no pun intended, but lately you stopped posting here in the forum, and yes I know Ted was redo-ing the EL 2.0 to incorporate better numbers to use, well I think they will better numbers because of where they are coming from, and my bet would be the hit rates will definetly increase with better figures being used, and also with better early horse's actually being designated as early horse's, I feel this will help too. ( please note this is not a stab at HSH, no not at all, it is just that over here in RDSS you guys took to this EL 2.0 so well and Ted has done so well incorporating it into his program and then there is the colors again , making it so easy to use and fun again, definitely not a poke at Dave or HSH, okay)
But having Days like this one that RichieP posted...this was awesome results
Here are the results from Thursday night after scratches.
4/28:
r1 - 5 cont - out
r2 - 5 cont - #1 l wins 12.40 #2 l places exacta 113.60
r3 - 4 cont - #2 l wins 23.40 #1 l places exacta 80.80
r4 - 5 cont - #2 l wins 6.80 #1 l places exacta 30.40
r5 - 4 cont - out
r6 - 5 cont - #1 e wins 4.80 2 e places exacta 20.00
r7 - 5 cont - #2 l wins 11.20
r8 - 5 cont - #1 e wins 4.80
r9 - 4 cont - #1 l wins 25.60 #2 e places exacta 330.80
r10- 5 cont - #2 e wins 21.20 #1 e places exacta 40.00
Could you imagine having nights like this on a regular basis, of course we couldn't as we all know this game evens itself out over time, but then... RichieP's opening week of Data was impressive , thanks Richie
Here is what Bill had to say, this too was encouraging to say the least..
Lets be open to this new idea. So far the 2 Es and 2Ls per race show 73% wins; 51% exactas and 25% trifectas. I have only done some of the ROI stuff but the exactas and tri's are positive and I think that 10c supers with the all button in position 4 will be too.
Bill
Then even after all this was done we have Dave doing this....The Change of Original Methodology ,and was post 21 and 22 of this thread htp://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7410&page=3
I felt he read alot of what you guys did hear and listened to you, he is good at that, something I am working on still, but tweaking things to work better is what makes this so much more , worth waiting for ,
To me this could only lead to better data numbers when Ted recalculates EL 2.0 using better and improved numbers, and I want to be a part of this and feel it will be a great addition to RDSS 2.0., but never a stand alone part , but 1 that will compliment each other perfectly, as TE and the BL/BL are pretty powerful now, as well as other assets of the program too.
My questions are this
1. Could we still get someone to post a track on the weekends for us to look at, as I noticed this is suppose to work every where, yet I have only seen reference to these tracks so far
KEE/TAM/WO/EVD/BEL/CD/SA,
But I could have missed them, but I would be interested in Monmouth and Calder too, please.
2. Is there anyone who could use any help with this BETA testing of EL 2.0, if so please let me know what I can do to help, as I have read the forum here a few times and really am impressed with the work done so far, extremely so (please note the following thou, I can not use an Excell or Open Office spreadsheet to well, nor could I figure the NewPace figures by hand either, I could only use the numbers that were generated by HSH or RDSS, )
3. Is there a time frame of when we could start using EL 2.0 in the future, like maybe in time for SAR or Del Mar, or maybe by Breeders Cup time, as I am once again fascinated by how this may work out, yet I am also well aware of how much work still needs to be done too, testing takes time and work.
Again Thank all of you for the hard work and dedication to this and everything here on RDSS, I hope 1 day to be able to help also, but for now I am like a kid in a Candy store waiting very impatiently...
Patrick