Robert
I did this:
http://bindfold.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2856

Richie,
Lets go a step further, odds 3/1 or better.

#1 BL/BL 64.7% avg. mutuel $9.22
#2 BL/BL 93.3% avg. mutuel $18.50
#3 BL/BL 72.7% avg. mutuel $15.17
#1 EPR 64.2% avg. mutuel $11.90
#1 LPR 66.6% avg. mutuel $20.00

If the rankings numbers are a byproducts of the pace line selected, should we be aware of horses that show fast pace, or otherwise?
Pino

I should have known Rich. I am just thinking out loud here but since your pace line selection is as usual so dependent on best against the projected pace call time for today then perhaps that is why the LPR is necessarily doing better then the EPR. That is a really fast horse who is not leading the race must have the best or better LPR to overcome the pace and win.

I need to stop bouncing around and get down to business with MU exclusively.

Thanks,

Robert

How did they come out ranked on VDC?

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that we are not looking for the horse who has run the best race. We are looking for the horse who is going to run the best race.

Good research. And thanks for the reminder that Doc spent the last few years of the Follow Up trying to drive home to us that mutuels on the late end are quite often much better.

Dick

Same 66 races Jeff:

#1 V/dc had 23 winners paying:
6.20
14.10
5.40
6.20
5.60
4.80
8.80
7.80
57.40
5.40
10.00
9.20
8.20
7.60
10.70
5.80
4.80
4.80
4.00
32.60
14.40
5.60
17.40

#2 V/dc had 18 winners paying:
22.60
32.20
6.60
9.10
15.30
9.80
9.80
6.40
8.00
21.40
8.00
20.00
11.60
6.60
16.10
11.80
6.40
41.20

#3 V/dc had 7 winners paying:
16.80
4.60
7.20
10.40
7.00
27.20
3.20

Richie,Looks like 2 comes out much better,more impressive to me is you had 41 winners out of 66 in the top 2 VDC.I know you guys probably dont look at VDC that way.Jeff

Thing that needs to be remembered is TIES which are common with V/dc.Makes things seem stronger than they are Jeff.

Having said that using top 2 V/dc as supporting corrolary for other things being looked at appears quite strong

Vdc
 

Hi Jeff

VDC is a big part of my final decisions
I am looking for big improvements BLBL to VDC

Richie is very correct
with Validator a horse almost NEVER!! goes backwards
VDC to BLBL Many times a horse will improve 3 bl-2vdc or 2bl -1vdc
many times you see tier 3 BLBL go to Tier 1 BLBL

Thanks
Bill

Pino
I think it was Ray Talbout who said that true class is a horse that can overcome the pace of race it faces and win.

Maybe the increase in win % of late bucks when matching and selecting lines against a similar proj pace has something to do with it? Maybe this ties in with Hat's "other than early" concept?

Time will tell and to be honest those figures should change as sample increases. Might have been a real strong week for late bucks :)

I can not check back data because it's gone :eek:. I am from the Dick Schmidt school of focusing on short term trends/data rather than long term

Thanks for the data flow