Saturday night - Delta Downs - "E" Proj Pace
 

This is the 4th race from Delta this Saturday night. It is a 5f dash and continuing this race series we have a Proj Pace coming from the #10's last line at this track and distance

22.1 - 46.2 (in fifhts)

Here is the field and after punching in Proj Pace the lines that meet or exceed the pace.

Very best of luck/skill to all those who jump in :)

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I like 6-10-8

Bob

I'd say that the 11 and 10 with maybe the 2 try to get lead and knock each other out, leaving the 6 and 8

I'd favor the 8 as it runs closer to lead whereas 6 came out of the clouds and won one for the Martians.

8 on top of 6

Bill

I like the 2-6-7.

Jim

Howbout 6 - 7 - 8?
All the earlies bury each other off leaving the off pacers to finish in the money.
At least that is how my BL/BL sort looks using the most recent pacelines.

The 6 horse Sheza is the ML favorite. So, is this race a pass?

Morning Chuck
"Hat's" initial betting instructions to me was to take 3/2 odds for win. Personally I could NOT pick enough of them to profit so he upped it to 2/1. That was still to low for me to make money so I focused on spot playing certain race types waiting for better odds.

Jim also played a lot of daily doubles and pick 3's etc so you could always use a low odds buck you think is going to win in one of the legs.


Betting preferences are a very individualistic choice and should be made after studying one's own decision and selection processes. NEVER believe ANY experts words, suggestions or findings when it does NOT match your own observed reality.

Happy New Year and thank you for taking the time to participate in the Matcher's Forum. :)
Richie

My BL/BL for the race.

My take...

1) Not close vs any kind of pace...out
2) 2nd race over track...line 3 & 4 shows can handle pace and dist...in
3) forget about this one...out
4) in off last race vs fast qtr..but only 3 life time wins hurts..in( for now)
5) another early horse but its too slow for these..out
6) won same race last out...in
7) in money finish last vs higher...in
8) always in there but couldn't win his 4th race in last 10 tries..out
9) another bad horse..out
10) best speed in this race ..will hold on till caught?...in
11) will fight with the 10 till it drops...out
12) nothing off a year + layoff..out

contenders...2-4-6-7-10

the 10 will go with the 5 & 11 in a fast pace and will fade
throw out the 4

leaving me the 2-6-7 in that order

gl

Happy New Year Rich
 

Here Is my work up

Lines
1H Line 2
2H Line 4
3H No Line
4H Line 1
5H No Line
6H Line 1
7H Line 1
8H Line 1
9H No line
10H Line 1
11H Line 1

I will enter these into KGEN

I have 4 Early Horses on the Kinetic Generator
Horse 1
Horse 4
Horse 8
Horse 10

I will isolate these 4 and match them
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The EXDC K graph says 8 4 10 1
I will leave in 8 and 4 for now
Out goes 1 and 10
Thoromation does not work for 5.0 distance races
So I have to use the stop action pre play screens
On the exdc/Sp PrePlay screens
The top 3
EXDC = 2 7 6
SP = 7 6 2

My bets 2 and 7

GS
Bill
Happy New Year to You

I see the (6) as the speed. Cheap speed ? maybe. this one could easily quit. For some reason these short sprints seem to favor the "late" runners. My "late" choice would be the (7).
So my final choices are 6 & 7. :eek:

Happy New Year everyone, let's all have our best year in 2012!

I am on the same page as far as this race going OTE so I will cut to my final three OTE runners, 4, 6 and 8.

I see that the 4 and 8 ran in the FPLR (21.9 46.3). The 4 made a strong move 1c-2c and held 2nd position into the stretch. I went back and looked for a power line on this one and found line 9. It moved 3-1-1-1 against 22.0 45.3.

The 8 finished ahead of the 4 in the tandem, but looking at other lines left me feeling like this one likes to be close without winning.

The 6 won its last race against 22.2 46.4 moving from 8th position.

I'm left taking the 4 on top....

Scratch the 11 and 12 in this race
 

Scratches 11-12

Hello everyone. Happy New Year to all. In this race I'll go with the #2 horse.

emilio

DeD 4th Race
 

With 15 minutes to post and the 11 and 12 scratched, here is what I have:

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Of these, the one consistently closest to the lead is the 2. That is my choice.

GL

Tim

Match Up Review
 

The first time I worked this race I followed my usual procedure. The #3 and #12 were eliminated because of ML 20/1 or greater, leaving ten horses. All of these horses had a race in the last 90 days and all had good lines, so as usual, I took the last line for each horse where the last race was a good line.

So here are the horses and lines.

#1 – LAST LINE, 31 days ago and the horse showed good early form by being 1st at the first two calls
#2 – LAST LINE, 21 days ago and the horse showed good early form by being 2nd at the first two calls
#3 – ELIMINATED ML
#4 – LAST LINE, 23 days ago and showed good form by making a middle move to be within 2 lengths of the leader at the second call
#5 – LAST LINE, 21 days ago and showed good early form by being 1st at the first two calls
#6 – LAST LINE, 38 days ago and won the race in good closing fashion
#7 – LAST LINE, 17 days ago and finished 3rd making up 3 positions
#8 – LAST LINE, 23 days ago finishing 3rd
#9 – LAST LINE, 21 days ago and made a middle move to make up some ground and be within 2 lengths of the leader at the second call
#10 – LAST LINE, 38n days ago and showing good early formj by being first at the 1st and 2nd calls
#11 – SCR
#12 – ELIMINATED ML

Now an interesting thing happened. When I got to the “RANKINGS” screen in ENERGY, the numbers 1, 2, 5 and 9 were horrible (see screen shot below). The “COMMON DENOMINATOR” among these horses was that their last line was NOT a 5 furlong line like the remainder of the horses. In fact, some of the lines were as much as ¼ of a mile longer than today’s race. On that basis I eliminated the #1, 2, 5 and 9.
Take note: the #11 is not yet scratched in the below screen shot.

More in my next post.

Match Up (cont'd)
 

Ok, so now I have removed the #’s 1, 2, 5 and 9 because their last lines were much longer than today’s distance of 5 furlongs and the remainder of the horses whose last line WERE from 5 furlong races. So what I did, was go back to these 4 horses and re-evaluate them.
Here’s how I looked at them.

#1 – throwing out the last line for the reason already mentioned, I looked at line 2 which is from a 5 furlong race. The horse did not display the standards for a paceline and therefore removed from further consideration
#2 – here is a horse that runs every time out. In the last ten races it has been on 5 different tracks and still runs its’ race every time. The question is, which race will it run today? I used this horse in another thread as an example of how to determine how a horse will run today based on the distance of today’s race. Here is the link.http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8051. We already know that using the last line on this horse gets it eliminated. As we look at this horses’ record, we can see that distance matters to this horse. And the only race it shows at 5 furlongs is its' 4th line back. Now I hate to go back 4 lines, but in this case, in this race, I feel compelled to do so. So the 4th line back will be the line I choose.
#5 – NO LINE for this horse. The closest it has run to today’s distance is 6.5 furlongs and we know we are not going to get that horse off of any of those lines
#9 – The only other line available for this horse in the last 90 days is line 2 at 5 furlongs. However, it just doesn’t meet the standards of line selection, so it is eliminated.

The final screen shots are below.

As you will see, ENERGY did not correctly pick the winner as it suggested a “sustained” horse would win the race and the #10, who ENERGY correctly had as the best early horse as seen on the EXDC MATCH UP (screen 5), went on to wire the field.
Also, the inclusion of #2 off the 4th line back seems to have been correct. The horse did not show early speed and did, in fact, close down the stretch.

Results
 

results...

The result is in and the Proj pace horse # 10 wires the field at 4/1. Was able to coast through a 1st fraction of 23.0 and had enough left to hold off the #2

The "Raceman" has the winner in his 3 horse contender mix (ranked 2nd behind the fav so a win bet was definitly a possibility!) Congrats on getting him!


Once again the heavy post time fav (#6) goes down in flames and this race a search party was needed to find his finish.:D

Thank you to all who jumped in and took part