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shoeless 12-28-2007 09:10 PM

Match Up Analysis
 
I can fly through races on cards using the colors to help me lock in on spot play races QUICKLY. Less than 5 minutes to scan a complete card of races.

To me now after months of doing the same thing the earlies stand out in my head while the deep sustained do the same in a negative way. This is what I need.

Others do things different as it should be. This is what I do
Richie
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Richie,I thought it would be better not to clutter up Ted's section with this.The only trouble is we are cappin horses not colors,you could miss quite a few things doing it that way.If you look on page 27 of the original Match Up book[i know im in the minority but I think it's better then the 2nd one]Hat gives a great way to anaylize the horses.


1)Look at the horses past performance lines.Identify the normal first fraction time,at a distance comparable to today's distance.WRITE THIS time by the name of each horse.Place a mark next to the time where the horse does his best

2)Follow the procedure for the second call

For me this is the way to do it,I would be interested to see how others go about trying to analyze the pace of today's raceShoeless

admin 12-28-2007 09:40 PM

pace
 
Hi Jeff

I'm sorry i have been not as active but I'm having some work related set backs and I want to try to do some more research and work my way back into form

What I do is what I have been reading about in the hat check area
I set the running styles Then pick power lines
That is the line were the horse ran against the fastest pace of race and finished competively - I kind of us judgement but in the money finishes
mostly

the nice thing about the software i use is I can list
each power line all together But I also can paper and pencil this step
I get a good idea of what the early runners can do I then set the
projected pace I then pick my lines with this projected pace
and look for plus running lines from the other horses
to pick my lines

Its working very well

BTW I like the Red match up manual
its hard to read but I learn every time I read it

Thanks
Bill

shoeless 12-28-2007 09:46 PM

Bill,Are you using RDSS to do this?The reason Im asking is I was wondering how many out there still do it Hat's way with paper and pencil.Jeff

admin 12-28-2007 09:56 PM

rdss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 26895)
Bill,Are you using RDSS to do this?The reason Im asking is I was wondering how many out there still do it Hat's way with paper and pencil.Jeff

Yes Jeff
I am using Rdss But I am only using the original lines

I like how i can see all the lines together on the analysis screen
But it would be very easy to write the numbers on paper

I love sending the raw data as RAC files over to energy and thoromation
from RDSS
But thats another story

I do find that typing in the lines or in some cases writing
down the numbers does help me so I think you pencil and paper guys
can get a benifit from that

GS
Bill

shoeless 12-29-2007 08:39 AM

Bill,No need for you to be sorry about being active on board lately,you have done plenty here already.Jeff

shoeless 12-29-2007 09:26 AM

WOW 93 views so far and only 2 people have responded,I tip my handicapping cap to you all.

partsnut 12-29-2007 10:10 AM

Opinion Needed
 
I chose this race at todays Aqueduct because it seemed to be a good race using both Thoromation and the Match-Up.
To me, the race indicates other then early.
I eventually came up with the following and would like opinions on this race.
I want to see if my procedure is right and don't basically care who wins the race or who gets it right or wrong. This is basically a learning process for me.
I want to keep an open mind to all methods open to me and am not opposed to learning something new.

simon 12-29-2007 10:35 AM

Race
 
Hello Partsnut
which race is this ?
Thanks RK

MIKE 12-29-2007 10:51 AM

Ragin

I believe that it's the first race.

simon 12-29-2007 11:09 AM

Race 1
 
Thank You Mike


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