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Bill V. · 11-11-2017, 01:48 PM

Well said Mitch in regards to pace line selections
Using a horses last 3 or 4 line to rate the last line, as the last line is the best indicator of current form is vital.

Tim, I'm glad we are on the same page
If a horse has failed 2 times at Alw N1x I can see where Doc's guidelines
would be in play.

However in this chase I hope you can, I think you would agree,
You can understand Mitch and my viewpoint that is ,Ask yourself, What else is the trainer suppose to do? Why punish the horse just because she not only won here NW1X condition,
She won without using close to the total energy she used as a FTS.
Again age sex and recency play a big part in advance pace line selections
BUT Preceptor and the adjusted speed rating and the match do too.
For Doc It was first a formost - the adjusted speed ratings.

Then when there was a question as to which of the last 3 races was best. Doc developed the F6 paceline indicator in Validator,

Ted drilled into this F6 key value and discovered it was the horse with the lower preceptor line score readout which highlighted to paceline ranked best.

So in theory Doc's guidelines were to use the best preceptor of the last 3 or 4 races at a comparable distance surface and competition lever
Compition level being total energy .

Bill

11-11-2017, 01:48 PM	#44
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	thanks Well said Mitch in regards to pace line selections Using a horses last 3 or 4 line to rate the last line, as the last line is the best indicator of current form is vital. Tim, I'm glad we are on the same page If a horse has failed 2 times at Alw N1x I can see where Doc's guidelines would be in play. However in this chase I hope you can, I think you would agree, You can understand Mitch and my viewpoint that is ,Ask yourself, What else is the trainer suppose to do? Why punish the horse just because she not only won here NW1X condition, She won without using close to the total energy she used as a FTS. Again age sex and recency play a big part in advance pace line selections BUT Preceptor and the adjusted speed rating and the match do too. For Doc It was first a formost - the adjusted speed ratings. Then when there was a question as to which of the last 3 races was best. Doc developed the F6 paceline indicator in Validator, Ted drilled into this F6 key value and discovered it was the horse with the lower preceptor line score readout which highlighted to paceline ranked best. So in theory Doc's guidelines were to use the best preceptor of the last 3 or 4 races at a comparable distance surface and competition lever Compition level being total energy . Bill