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Match Up Apprentice
Join Date: May 2008
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Preakness
Looks between Derby Winner and Oaks winner to me.
Big Drama or Friesan Fire to fill 3rd, maybe even 2nd and 3rd if this comes a bit quick for Mine That Bird .
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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There is an "unwritten" rule in the Sartin methodology and that is NOT to use the Derby pace performance line in evaluating the Preakness.
The BIRD's race was so ATYPICAL and the trip was so lucky, that using that would really be SAMPLE ERROR on Depo-Medrol ( a steroid). Whenever I see a horse with multiple lines of a certain energy type and THEN BOOM a LATE LATE one shows up? They RARELY, if EVER repeat that one. RARELY.
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Hello Tim:
I hope that you are doing well? Tim, in your opinion do you believe that MTB will fire with the same late kick to get up and get a piece or possibly win in the Preakness, or do you believe as you had mentioned in your last post that his late Derby kick may have been an aberration of sorts? ![]() I think that it is going to be very interesting to see if Mike Smith can get him to lay off the pace as before in the Derby, can he get up with that late type of explosive burst as he showed us in his last effort. I personally don't see it happening, but, if he can, "maybe he is all of that and a bunch of crab cakes"! ![]() Vinnie
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you don't win the Preakness with decelerations over 100
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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Very interesting statistic Tim. Thanks for sharing.
Have a Good day and Good skill always. Vinnie
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Match Up Apprentice
Join Date: May 2008
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Look at the Power Move MTB made between 2c and straight against POTN and Papa Clem.
A similar Power Move to Street Sense in KD 07, a similar Power Move to Street Sense in Preakness 07 If MTB is ok after that big effort, then i think the only horse he really has to worry about is the Rachael Alexandra.
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Well you guys bring up some good points but I am sticking with Rachel today. I think she overcome the odds and wins the Preakness
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AlwNW1X
Join Date: May 2009
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HEY, Tim Y .. I"ve handicapped a long
time ,,pace the foundation and used %E from a friend. I've seen your posts here an there* what program do you use? is it still available?? TIA |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Old School
Old School Preakness ala PBS
My fulcrum is Racheal - 111.4 I will not use the Derby for PBS....go back one race + 1 - 99 (used 2 back route) + 2 - 98 + 3 - 94 - 4 - 82 - 5 - 87 - 6 - 75 + 7 -100 - 8 - 80 - 9 - 81 +10 - 94 -11 - 78 -12 - 72 +13 - 92 Contenders 100 99 98 94 94 92 |
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