Leverage Pace Results review

[Jake]

For those who have been consistently experimenting or betting Leverage Pace,
would you be willing to discuss your overall results? Where are you finding the
strongest or the weakest parts of using this as a handicapping framework?
I'm curious to see how the posters here are feeling about their experiences with
Leverage Pace with the new upgrade. Thanks.

Jake

[AwesomeAgain]

I have not really tracked my overall success with Leverage Pace. I use it primarily for structuring my verticals. I still rely on other factors to land on the horse I want to wager on. If that horse happens to be a leverage pace horse or key contender, that is an added bonus in my eyes. Results will vary with other members. For the sake of value, and depending on post time odds. You may want to key your leverage Pace horse underneath. I have done that In a trifecta a few time. Keyed my horse for 2nd and 3rd. Hope I could help.

[Jake]

Thanks, Awesome. I wasn't really looking for advice on using Leverage Pace, but your comments were appreciated. I’m really checking to see after a year or more with this handicapping approach available, are most people finding it an useful framework for structuring their own handicapping and wagering strategies? (I've used a key horse exacta strategy successfully for years, so I know the wagering premise is solid.)

Pace Leverage is an impressively well structured approach with heavily researched stats; both Dick Werpy and Bill Lyster deserve many kudos and much respect for their massive efforts here. I say this, because my questions have a naturally critical aspect to them. But I honestly respect the scope of their undertaking, and the tons of work which went into connecting all the dots. It's quite the puzzle reveal.

That said, some key questions I find interesting:
Is the Visual Pace Bias actually reliable for predicting the expected total pace pressure, "how the race will run today?

Are the the NP numbers more accurate than other selected paceline choices and traditional Sartin pace factors?

Have you been able to integrate the composite rankings with wagering on longer odds horses, with the critical scoring key thresholds (VT<7, as an example)?

Finally, is this really the most reliable for determining the “best” key horse in the SR Range Unpressed/Pressure gauge graphic?

These seems to me to be most critical conditional components to making Leverage Pace work correctly. So, as a survey, I would ask what parts of Leverage Pace have you found either working best or fail most often in your own handicapping? (I know this has have been discussed extensively in the Zoom tutorials and the study groups, but thought this thread might open up an another venue for discussing pros and cons here.) Thanks.

[kahunab]

Jake,
Thanks for the kudos. I too am interested in how the approach works for others and what glitches they are encountering. I am currently on vacation so I don't have all my tools with me. I will give you my responses to your questions when I get back home.

Dick

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Jake

Good thoughtful post hope you get some answers

Jeff

[Jake]

Originally Posted by kahunab

Jake,
Thanks for the kudos. I too am interested in how the approach works for others and what glitches they are encountering. I am currently on vacation so I don't have all my tools with me. I will give you my responses to your questions when I get back home.

Dick

Dick, since there hasn't been much posted response on this, despite a large number of views, lets talk first thru personal messaging when you're ready. Hope that will work for you. Next month is fine for me.

Jake

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Lots of views little response, I have nothing worthwhile
to offer

Jeff