Tpr vs Bl/Bl - Pace and Cap

RichieP · 10-28-2007, 10:45 AM

Would any users who worked the Breeder's Cup races be willing to run a comparison between Tpr and Bl/Bl winners in top 3?

admin · 10-28-2007, 12:19 PM

Hi Rich

I only worked 3 races but maybe i can help you out with these

The races I worked were friday #10
and Saturday the turf and the classic

Code:

This is Friday race 10
BLBL    TPR
1         1        
3         3
6         6
8         5
5         8

the winner was # 8 so blbl did a little better


This is the turf

BLBL          TPR
English       English
Red           Red
Better       Better
Grand        Grand
Shamd       Sham

No differance with my lines
English is the winner

The Classic

BLBL         TPR
Lawyer      Lawyer
Diamond    Diamond
AnyGiv      AnyGiv
Awsome    Curlin
Curlin        Awsome

Curlin does better on TPR

Hope this helps you
Rich

Turbulator · 10-28-2007, 02:42 PM

Funny you should ask. I was looking at the same thing. There were virtually no differences (some in the lower tiers) for the dirt races. The biggest differences were in the turf races.

Races 1&2.

Turbulator · 10-28-2007, 02:43 PM

Races 3&6. I didn't do 4&5, the two-year-old races.

Turbulator · 10-28-2007, 02:45 PM

Races 7&8.

Turbulator · 10-28-2007, 02:48 PM

Races 9&10.

Turbulator · 10-28-2007, 02:49 PM

Race 11.

Turbulator · 10-28-2007, 02:55 PM

For some reason race # 1 came out backwards. This is right.

RichieP · 10-28-2007, 03:28 PM

Bill and Steve,
Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback man. Here is a little something for you

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tsFKbKk22SU
Richie

Bill Lyster · 10-28-2007, 07:16 PM

Richie:

Seeing some of the other results I included a bit more info and I think its of interest.

Dist BL Ep-Lp-TPR(Rank)
6f 2 1-4-2
6f 1 2-2-1
8d 3 5-1-5
8.5d 4 1-5-4
8.5d 5 1-5-1
9d 1 3-1-1
10d 2 3-4-3
8t 3 1-4-1
8t 3 4-2-3
11t 1 4-2-1
12t 3 4-1-4

Selection notes: I capped all dirt lines using matchup and turf races by computer alone. Any top five energy horse with a 1 rank anywhere in the TPR array was very dangerous 9/11 won. Only the turf mile and classic winners failed this test. Also within the context of the running styles and the lines and other contenders picked, a 1 rank, even if it appeared to violate visual running style, was still to be respected.

bill

10-28-2007, 02:42 PM	#3
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	Funny you should ask. I was looking at the same thing. There were virtually no differences (some in the lower tiers) for the dirt races. The biggest differences were in the turf races. Races 1&2. Attached Images __________________

10-28-2007, 02:43 PM	#4
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	Races 3&6. I didn't do 4&5, the two-year-old races. Attached Images __________________

10-28-2007, 02:45 PM	#5
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	Races 7&8. Attached Images __________________

10-28-2007, 02:48 PM	#6
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	Races 9&10. Attached Images __________________

10-28-2007, 02:49 PM	#7
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	Race 11. Attached Images __________________

10-28-2007, 10:45 AM	#1
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Tpr vs Bl/Bl Would any users who worked the Breeder's Cup races be willing to run a comparison between Tpr and Bl/Bl winners in top 3? __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

10-28-2007, 02:55 PM	#8
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	For some reason race # 1 came out backwards. This is right. Attached Images __________________

10-28-2007, 03:28 PM	#9
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Bill and Steve, Thank you. I really appreciate the feedback man. Here is a little something for you http://youtube.com/watch?v=tsFKbKk22SU Richie __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

10-28-2007, 07:16 PM	#10
Bill Lyster Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Escondido CA just 25 minutes from where the turf meets the surf - "...at Del Mar" Posts: 2,500	Richie: Seeing some of the other results I included a bit more info and I think its of interest. Dist BL Ep-Lp-TPR(Rank) 6f 2 1-4-2 6f 1 2-2-1 8d 3 5-1-5 8.5d 4 1-5-4 8.5d 5 1-5-1 9d 1 3-1-1 10d 2 3-4-3 8t 3 1-4-1 8t 3 4-2-3 11t 1 4-2-1 12t 3 4-1-4 Selection notes: I capped all dirt lines using matchup and turf races by computer alone. Any top five energy horse with a 1 rank anywhere in the TPR array was very dangerous 9/11 won. Only the turf mile and classic winners failed this test. Also within the context of the running styles and the lines and other contenders picked, a 1 rank, even if it appeared to violate visual running style, was still to be respected. bill